DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Maybe ,
But isn’t it easy and better for america for them to be working And not costing us detention , meals , guards , etc etc . money . Instead Working buying spending money in our economy?

Not sure where you got the idea they are costing 100 billion annually .

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

Plenty of reporting, some biased I’m sure but in California we spent 23 billion alone. And any fair analysis today, not a decade ago, with the extension of benefits such as free medical in California I don’t believe undocumented (not counting legal engineers and doctors, etc.) immigrants are a net positive for the economy. New York City is spending $5,000,000 a day just for services for refugees.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Sorry I don’t believe your numbers . You have to show me sone type of proof and then find a way to deduct. The positives . Sales taxes paid. Goods purchased . You can not just count negatives. Based on hearsay

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

New FAIR Cost Study: I*****l I*********n Now Costs American Taxpayers At Least $151 Billion a Year

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fair-cost-study-illegal-immigration-170000651.html

Triple G

FAIR is anti-immigration with founders and leadership of Steven Miller, Jeff Sessions and other like minded folks.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

"Sorry pressed on the wrong quote reply".

You asked for proof, a publication from Yahoo Finance was provided. If you don't agree with it, provide proof that it is wrong.

Immigration reform is not anti-immigration.

Founded in 1979, FAIR is the country's largest immigration reform group. With over 3 million members and supporters nationwide, FAIR fights for immigration policies that serve national interests, not special interests. FAIR believes that immigration reform must enhance national security, improve the economy, protect jobs, preserve our environment, and establish a rule of law that is recognized and enforced.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Really
From you link
“”” but there is currently insufficient data to provide reliable cost estimates.
“””

Data from a anti immigration organization founded by a white nationalist.. really??


Tanton was an anti-immigration activist.[10] He was the founder and patron of many anti-immigration non-profit organizations,[11][12] including ProEnglish.[13] By 2019, six anti-immigrant groups founded by Tanton were designated as h**e groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[13]

anotherview Loc: California

Prefect solution.

Presidents Hoover, Roosevelt, and Eisenhower together rounded up and deported millions of i*****l m*****ts, in the national interest.

Hire an army of investigators to screen the applications of asylum-seekers. Other reports have found that 9 out of 10 applicants fail to establish a basis for further processing of their cases for asylum. Deport the rest posthaste to their home countries.

Note that economic betterment does not serve as basis for asylum.

America can get along without i*****l m*****ts and will prosper all the more without them.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

As I stated yesterday this is an example of just NYC reported in their newspaper:
It definitely benefits consumers of cheap labor and remissions to Mexico but maybe not the taxpayer to the extent it did in the past. New York post recently reported NYC is spending nearly 5 million per day (actually 4.7m) at an annual cost of 1.7 billion dollars for services directed at illegal/undocumented immigrants. There seems to be more immigrant activists influencing demands and governments providing more services. For instance the 50 story 492 room Holiday Inn which in January averaged $102 per night/per room ($145-149 per night 60% occupancy) recently signed a contract to become an 100% occupied immigrant hotel charging the taxpayers $190 per night/$93,500 per day/$2,800,000 per month. Under the agreement the city will provide 24 hour security and housekeeping at least three times per week. The city is negotiating with some 70 hotels for similar agreements.

As I stated California expends 23 billion on i******s. Immigration advocates report over half of our 2.5 million (in California) are working poor. Yes they pay sales tax, may have minimal federal taxes taken out but if they are not using fraudulent documents they could file and probably be refunded their state and federal taxes based on their income. They would also have social security deducted and would have a positive impact on the economy with their purchases. This is dated (2019 report) California spent $7,405,103,000 on medical, welfare and other services, $4,795,702,000 general government services, $8,133,725,000 education, $2,703,575,000 justice system. We spend more on illegal/undocumented aliens than 22 states total budgets. The above numbers don’t reflect laws passed since which grants full medical services regardless of immigration status. They may/do benefit the economy but there is no doubt (at least in our state) the taxpayers lose. By the way, legally, any out of court statement or writing is hearsay including everything you, I or others have said on this site.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

Yahoo Finance (a liberal website) doesn't seem to have a problem with the data, or they wouldn't have published it. If you don't agree with the dollar figures, all you have to do is provide published documentation that proves it wrong. Just using your opinion doesn't prove anything.

Here is the detailed report that breaks down expenditures and receipts by Federal, State and Local governments for i*****l i*********n. This should provide you with an easy formate to follow when providing your information.

https://www.fairus.org/sites/default/files/2023-03/Fiscal%20Burden%20of%20Illegal%20Immigration%20on%20American%20Taxpayers%202023%20WEB_0.pdf

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

I repeat the site quoted is the Susan of a white Nationalist. You can believe if you want - I don’t

By the way reading thru this so called report shows there are no receipts only estimates based on wrongly assumed percentages. And numbers .
It is total crap

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

I’m not saying the numbers in this report are not biased but what is your proof that the numbers are based on “wrongly assumed percentages and numbers?”
Just one example:
The American Immigration Council (staunch immigration advocates) state 6.1 million children under age 18 reside with an undocumented family member. Everyone of those children by law get a k-12 education (some states even extend in state tuition while a U.S. citizen from a neighboring state pays considerably more for attending). Many of these students require bilingual instruction. The average cost per student per year (2022) in the U.S. for all children is 11,070. That would put a national price tag of 67.5 billion for just education and that doesn’t account to special needs of different languages. Additionally, immigrants do not need a social security card (just a tax I.D. Number) to qualify for child tax credits and if a child is born in the U.S. to undocumented parent(s) the family would qualify for social services (aid for families with dependent children) regardless of the parent(s) status so that is going to negate some of the taxes paid.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

As usual, you can provide nothing but opinion. Since your from Missouri, "Show Me".

anotherview Loc: California

I've read that criminal aliens make up 25 percent of the federal prison population. At what cost I do not know.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Criminal aliens percent of prison population
That’s a 30 year old report and is only federal prisons .
Now that number is 13%?of which 30% are in for immigration issues.

https://apnews.com/article/7a4db70b81879a9d71abf6ea34a6988c




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