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Jan 27, 2023 10:57:41   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
You've got something unique here.


uniqueness on a whim....

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Jan 27, 2023 11:01:24   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
nikonwaddy wrote:
LOL...Just "Shows to GO Ya" .. Art Nude shooters have all the originality, imagination and skill of the erudite high art photographers not to mention humor. I nearly did a coffee "spit-take" when I first saw this capture. Let me double and pass on all the photography elements mentioned on this site plus just a simple GREAT SHOT. .. Also the critter in this shot is probably a Toad, not a frog. There is a difference.


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It is in fact a toad... I would bet my D850 on it...

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Jan 27, 2023 11:56:16   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻


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Jan 27, 2023 11:59:10   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
Dannj wrote:
The dichotomy for me is the interesting concept vs the unpleasant image. Just my 2 cents, of course.


Unpleasant image? I thought it was a hoot!

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Jan 27, 2023 12:07:03   #
nikonwaddy
 
I guess then that we both get to keep our D850's (mine relatively knew as an upgrade to my D810) .. and also the knowledge of the difference between toads and frogs. .. Also, wish I had been your assistant when you were shooting this if only to see your wonderful models reactions.......;~)

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Jan 27, 2023 17:09:43   #
toxdoc42
 
timpson wrote:
Thanks!

It is in fact a toad... I would bet my D850 on it...


Should I ask inaturalist?

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Jan 27, 2023 20:18:50   #
Dannj
 
timpson wrote:
Unpleasant image? I thought it was a hoot!


I’m not talking about the subject matter, it’s not a pleasing image to my eye. To each his own😂

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Jan 28, 2023 06:06:03   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
toxdoc42 wrote:
Should I ask inaturalist?


It really does not matter to me...if you insist on proving yourself wrong, go for it!

It makes me scratch my head over why some folks cant tell the difference between a frog and a toad. My pond is a plethora of aquatic life and my knowledge ( over 40 years of experience with these critters) goes way beyond yours here in this regard.

BUT for you... its not a toad and its not a nipple. For the rest of us in the real world, its is what I know it is... A toad on a nipple! I'm done matching knowledge with the uninformed...

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Jan 28, 2023 06:09:06   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
Dannj wrote:
I’m not talking about the subject matter, it’s not a pleasing image to my eye. To each his own😂


Fair enough. I do agree that its not an image for the living room wall but concept to print, at least for me, was nothing but fun ... and it surely got my initial intent across... just how tiny these toads are when they leave the pond every spring... and they do so by the hundreds if not by the thousands...

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Jan 28, 2023 06:12:57   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
nikonwaddy wrote:
I guess then that we both get to keep our D850's (mine relatively knew as an upgrade to my D810) .. and also the knowledge of the difference between toads and frogs. .. Also, wish I had been your assistant when you were shooting this if only to see your wonderful models reactions.......;~)


Its good to know, unlike some 'experts' here, that you indeed payed attention in Biology class. It amazes me how many folks confuse toads and frogs. They typically don't know the difference between a crayfish and a crab as well.....

I will make ya a deal, you bring the next human subject, and I will provide the toads...

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Jan 28, 2023 08:48:36   #
toxdoc42
 
timpson wrote:
Its good to know, unlike some 'experts' here, that you indeed payed attention in Biology class. It amazes me how many folks confuse toads and frogs. They typically don't know the difference between a crayfish and a crab as well.....

I will make ya a deal, you bring the next human subject, and I will provide the toads...


I am not offended by the image, I think it was kind of fun. I have seen other images on UHH with various objects on nudes, and I did not see negative opinions. It is shocking to me how many were apparently offended.

I am so sorry that you were so offended by the comment. But, I did pay attention in biology class, and, always wondered why some people call things frogs and others toads. I asked in part, to satisfy my curiosity and to correct my incorrect knowledge, if in fact it was incorrect. I consider myself a lifelong learner, and question my knowledgebase often. Since you decided to attack my curiosity, I did look it up. I don't know how much you trust Wikipedia but it disagrees with your identification. In fact it takes a pretty strong stance on the habitat of toads versus frogs.

"Source: Wikipedia

A frog is any member of a diverse and largely carnivorous group of short-bodied, tailless amphibians composing the order Anura[1] (ανοὐρά, literally without tail in Ancient Greek). The oldest fossil "proto-frog" Triadobatrachus is known from the Early Triassic of Madagascar, but molecular clock dating suggests their split from other amphibians may extend further back to the Permian, 265 million years ago. Frogs are widely distributed, ranging from the tropics to subarctic regions, but the greatest concentration of species diversity is in tropical rainforest. Frogs account for around 88% of extant amphibian species. They are also one of the five most diverse vertebrate orders. Warty frog species tend to be called toads, but the distinction between frogs and toads is informal, not from taxonomy or evolutionary history.

An adult frog has a stout body, protruding eyes, anteriorly-attached tongue, limbs folded underneath, and no tail (the tail of tailed frogs is an extension of the male cloaca). Frogs have glandular skin, with secretions ranging from distasteful to toxic. Their skin varies in colour from well-camouflaged dappled brown, grey and green to vivid patterns of bright red or yellow and black to show toxicity and ward off predators. Adult frogs live in fresh water and on dry land; some species are adapted for living underground or in trees.

Frogs typically lay their eggs in water. The eggs hatch into aquatic larvae called tadpoles that have tails and internal gills. They have highly specialized rasping mouth parts suitable for herbivorous, omnivorous or planktivorous diets. The life cycle is completed when they metamorphose into adults. A few species deposit eggs on land or bypass the tadpole stage. Adult frogs generally have a carnivorous diet consisting of small invertebrates, but omnivorous species exist and a few feed on plant matter. Frog skin has a rich microbiome which is important to their health. Frogs are extremely efficient at converting what they eat into body mass. They are an important food source for predators and part of the food web dynamics of many of the world's ecosystems. The skin is semi-permeable, making them susceptible to dehydration, so they either live in moist places or have special adaptations to deal with dry habitats. Frogs produce a wide range of vocalizations, particularly in their breeding season, and exhibit many different kinds of complex behaviors to attract mates, to fend off predators and to generally survive."

"Etymology and taxonomy
The use of the common names frog and toad has no taxonomic justification. From a classification perspective, all members of the order Anura are frogs, but only members of the family Bufonidae are considered "true toads". The use of the term frog in common names usually refers to species that are aquatic or semi-aquatic and have smooth, moist skins; the term toad generally refers to species that are terrestrial with dry, warty skins.[2][3] There are numerous exceptions to this rule. The European fire-bellied toad (Bombina bombina) has a slightly warty skin and prefers a watery habitat[4] whereas the Panamanian golden frog (Atelopus zeteki) is in the toad family Bufonidae and has a smooth skin.[5]" https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/20979-Anura (accessed 1/28/2023)

Enough about why I asked, so sorry if you were offended. I will remember not to question your authority in the future.

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Jan 28, 2023 10:33:22   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
toxdoc42 wrote:
I am not offended by the image, I think it was kind of fun. I have seen other images on UHH with various objects on nudes, and I did not see negative opinions. It is shocking to me how many were apparently offended.


Enough about why I asked, so sorry if you were offended. I will remember not to question your authority in the future.


I never got the impression you were offended by the post. I was only trying to educate you on the fact that this is a toad, the American toad. Toads breed in water like frogs. They eventually "hop" out of the pond to resume life on land and return to water for breeding purposes. Frogs on the other hand, when leaving the pond for whatever reason, "leap" out. I have grey frogs, bullfrogs, leopard frogs, green frogs, wood frogs, peepers, and on and on but the american toad, along with the spotted salamander, are the first to lay their eggs in the pond in early spring. The salamanders emerge later in the fall but the toads are the first ones out of the pond. Here is a picture I took years ago of the American Toad during its mating rituals in my pond. Notice the debauchery in the background... The grey tree frog you posted a picture of earlier, If the same as those I have here, have a very loud and eerie mating call. I may not have a PHD in Biology, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one night...



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Jan 28, 2023 10:48:03   #
Dannj
 
timpson wrote:
It really does not matter to me...if you insist on proving yourself wrong, go for it!

It makes me scratch my head over why some folks cant tell the difference between a frog and a toad. My pond is a plethora of aquatic life and my knowledge ( over 40 years of experience with these critters) goes way beyond yours here in this regard.

BUT for you... its not a toad and its not a nipple. For the rest of us in the real world, its is what I know it is... A toad on a nipple! I'm done matching knowledge with the uninformed...
It really does not matter to me...if you insist on... (show quote)


Which one causes warts when they pee on you?

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Feb 3, 2023 16:29:35   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Nice work

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Feb 7, 2023 04:52:01   #
timpson Loc: Central PA
 
topcat wrote:
Nice work


Thanks!

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