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Jan 25, 2023 13:45:21   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
delder wrote:
I see 2 directions in 3D from the responses above:
1. Vintage 3 D using original 3 D equipment wherever possible.

2. Digital State of the Art Digital 3 D end-to-end.

I seem to remember a cardboard 3 D viewer several years ago for the 3 D cameras of the day.

My thoughts would be to create a cost effective 3 D system that would leverage existing Color Printers and possibly AI augmented cameras that could be used to create a shareable 3 D experience in which the Potograper could create 3 D prints and share/package them with an affordable cardboard/ plastic Stereo viewer. Professionally this could be a novelty offering for Wedding/ event projects.
Family photography this would be a holiday/ event gift with an ongoing update to the photographs over the years.
The modest image size could easily be done 2 up [Stereo] on 8×10 or so. Multiple copies could be sent out for affordable prints.

This would provide a technology agnostic photo novelty that could help increase interest in print photography. Comments?#
I see 2 directions in 3D from the responses above:... (show quote)


This is one of my 3D cards. You need to have a stereo-opticon viewer like in the old days. But then the experience is worth it, and how I know that is because you tend to look 3 or 4 times longer at a 3D print than a 2D one.

The depth in this one just beckons you into the picture.



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Jan 25, 2023 14:22:33   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
yssirk123 wrote:
Fujifilm FinePix Real 3D W3 Digital Camera with 3.5-Inch LCD - $$336, One left in stock at Amazon.


Several on ebay in fact I just ordered a charger and extra battery for mine. Now I can use it again.

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Jan 25, 2023 14:24:35   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
Fotoartist wrote:
This is one of my 3D cards. You need to have a stereo-opticon viewer like in the old days. But then the experience is worth it, and how I know that is because you tend to look 3 or 4 times longer at a 3D print than a 2D one.

The depth in this one just beckons you into the picture.


Actually, if you focus your eyes in such a way as if sort of cross eyed, you can easily view this image without a 3D viewer, your eyes will do it for you. I just did it with your lamp photo as well.

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Jan 25, 2023 14:42:55   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Lucian wrote:
Actually, if you focus your eyes in such a way as if sort of cross eyed, you can easily view this image without a 3D viewer, your eyes will do it for you. I just did it with your lamp photo as well.

There are two modes of looking at stereo stills. One uses a cross-eyed method where the photos are reversed with respect to left and right. The other leaves the photos uncrossed but they have to be close to the eyes. With the second, or parallel mode, rather than looking at the photos themselves, you look past them so they merge into a single image. The first method gives some viewers a headache. The second is more relaxing. The lamp and lady samples above are the uncrossed, parallel type.
http://www.minerbits.com/how-to-view-3D.html

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Jan 25, 2023 15:01:30   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Retina wrote:
There are two modes of looking at stereo stills. One uses a cross-eyed method where the photos are reversed with respect to left and right. The other leaves the photos uncrossed but they have to be close to the eyes. With the second, or parallel mode, rather than looking at the photos themselves, you look past them so they merge into a single image.

Neither approach is satisfactory for most viewers.

The cross-eyed method limits the viewing time to the amount of eyestrain you can tolerate.

With the parallel method the images can't be any wider than about 2½ inches each. Some form of optical aid can help like the 19th century holders.

Anaglyph is better than either (no size limit) but it has color issues and it works better with B&W images.



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Jan 25, 2023 15:15:18   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
selmslie wrote:
Neither approach is satisfactory for most viewers.

The cross-eyed method limits the viewing time to the amount of eyestrain you can tolerate.

With the parallel method the images can't be any wider than about 2½ inches each. Some form of optical aid can help like the 19th century holders.

Anaglyph is better than either (no size limit) but it has color issues and it works better with B&W images.


And you need glasses.

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Jan 25, 2023 15:18:30   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
selmslie wrote:
Anaglyph is better than either (no size limit) but it has color issues and it works better with B&W images.

This shows the potential for a large image.

Download it
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Jan 25, 2023 15:22:33   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
And you need glasses.

You can get 10 pair for under $17 with plastic frames or 50 for under $9 in cardboard at Amazon.

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Jan 25, 2023 15:37:20   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Fotoartist wrote:
This is one of my 3D cards. You need to have a stereo-opticon viewer like in the old days. But then the experience is worth it, and how I know that is because you tend to look 3 or 4 times longer at a 3D print than a 2D one.

The depth in this one just beckons you into the picture.


Question:
How do you print the cards?

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Jan 25, 2023 15:59:12   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
I haven't shot 3-D since the late 1950s and early 60s and that was Kodachrome 3-D slides!

At that time I was just getting to start shooting weddings in New York City. The studio I worked for provided black and white albums and those who wanted color could order a second shooter and have a set of 3-D chromes. At first, I was that second shooter. The main shooter shot black and white on 4x5. Many of the older guys tended to overexpose a bit on Tri-X or Royal Pan but that was a big no-no on Kodachrome. Like most younger guys, I was more careful and worried about exposure so I was elected!

This was extremely popular. There were slide cases that were upholstered with white leather and gold stamped like album overs. I shot 3-D every week and my job also included driving the Kodak Processig plant in Fairlawn, New Jersey with all the film from upwards of 6 weddings. The boss did, not trust the mail and didn't want to leave the film at the local dealer. I would drive up early on Monday mornings, go for lunch, read a few magazines and come back in the early evening with the processed and mounted slides- 24 on each roll of 36!

It was a hot item for a while but viewing the slides was a chore. The special cases also had a compartment for a binocular viewer that had to be passed around. The projection was kinda difficult. You needed a "sliver" screen and glasses, and aligning the projector was not a lot of good fun. Folks that were too far off the projector/screen axis did not see the effect. After a while, it kida fell out of popular favor although there were a few clients that were big into 3-D, did their family and travel photography that way, and ordered our slides for the celebrations of their wedding.

I use 2- 35mm Stereo-Relaist cameras and 2- Revere/Wollensack models. With multiple flashes and Kodachrome 25, the results were really impressive. The lace on the bridal gowns and the flowers were somethg to enjoy!

At one point, when I became a "main shooter", we had a custom rig that piggybacked a Stereo-Realist camera atop a Speed graphic and a complex mechanism that combined the rangefinders. Seriously!? You needed 3 hands and 2 brains to operate that system and add a big strobe and you needed to be a weightlifter. Instead, I just trained a new second shooter!

3-D Digital? Why not?! Sounds INTERESTING!! Remember Viewwe-Master?

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Jan 25, 2023 16:53:36   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
I have created a few 3D stereo pairs. To view them you cross your eyes and merge the 2 images in the middle together. This takes some practice. I've been doing it for 40 years and it's easy for me.
MtHeboOpsStereoPair by David Casteel, on Flickr





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Jan 25, 2023 17:03:29   #
GW1755 Loc: Florida
 
On the subject of 3D - as a kid in the mid 1950's my parents took me to see a couple of 3D movies (Fox theater, downtown Detroit). One was called Broken Arrow with John Wayne. The movie had all the people trying to duck below the seating to prevent being hit by arrows. The 3D could not have been better - best 3D movie I have ever seen. My current HDTV came with 3D glasses and I have watched a couple of movies (wearing the 3D glasses) however, the movies were no comparison to the John Wayne movies I watched in the 1950's. Quality 3D movies are not being made because of the high cost.

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Jan 25, 2023 17:36:51   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
If I were to print my stereo pairs for use in a stereopticon, I'd have to reverse the order because the device presents the image to each eye directly, and my technique has them in opposition due to the crossing of the eyes.

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Jan 25, 2023 18:33:20   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
GW1755 wrote:
On the subject of 3D - as a kid in the mid 1950's my parents took me to see a couple of 3D movies (Fox theater, downtown Detroit). One was called Broken Arrow with John Wayne. The movie had all the people trying to duck below the seating to prevent being hit by arrows. The 3D could not have been better - best 3D movie I have ever seen. My current HDTV came with 3D glasses and I have watched a couple of movies (wearing the 3D glasses) however, the movies were no comparison to the John Wayne movies I watched in the 1950's. Quality 3D movies are not being made because of the high cost.
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Jan 25, 2023 19:24:59   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
As a child, I would marvel at the scenes from the world of 1900 on the 3d Stereoptican cards in our three boxes of cards. When home sick in grammar school, I would love to watch the world of "Around the World"--"Italy" (with all the statues) and--"Palestine, the Holy Land", boxes of our Underwood an Underwood cards. When I lived in DC in the late sixties, I bought items at a second hand store, run by a Mr. Kamras who told me he worked for Underwood and Underwood in 1900. I bought a 3d camera from him made by Goertz. Unfortunately it did not have the two Goertz Dagor lenses which he had previously sold. It did have the manual and all. Over the years I have been meaning to buy two identical focal length lenses and make my own cards.

So when will some manufacturer come out with a double lens digital camera and software plus either an electronic viewer or software to turn a double display image with the help of a hand held viewer to repeat history. Those cards were really great!-------------ew
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3D is alive and well at the movies. The new release of Avatar, The Way of Water, is shown in 3D at selected theaters. We saw it during the holidays. After the first minute or so, you think you are in the same environment as the characters in the movie! It is that good. You do have to wear the special polarizing glasses. It is an absolute treat that we would see again.

I still have an old Stereopticon and a box of random cards. I also have a Stereo Realist 35mm camera. They occupy a portion of my small old camera display case...

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