ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

Old men like me didn't get to decide the fate of women. They decided and their impact converted the Red Tsunami to a ripple.

A******n/Free choice are important. I told you so. lol

Now that it has been made clear how to win e******ns, will the GOP change it's position?

SteveR Loc: Michigan

With everything available today, it must take poor planning to end up with an unwanted pregnancy. Depo provera is a shot that can be taken quarterly. Beats forgetting to take a pill.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Art, it would seem that the a******n issue certainly clouded the actual "day-to-day" issues which we are all currently facing.
--Bob

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

The Depo Provera shot might be the most effective form of birth control and it has a 4% failure rate

ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

When you write "we", you like so many GOP v**ers, it seems to neglect a significant number of v**ers, enough to make a difference and discount the importance of the day-to-day you claim.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

I used that for an example. However, if it were used consistently, my guess is there would be many less a******ns. A******n today is bandied about as just another form of birth control. It's not. It ends the life of a viable child, no matter what the stage of development, or the fact that he/she cannot even be felt by the mother. All for the sake of convenience. I'll tell you one thing that's Biblical. God knew every one of these children and who they were before the universe was even created, just as He knew each one of us.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Art, why would you assume that I follow along with GOP v**ers? The "we" I used was directed to the general population. All of us are faced with increased costs of living expenses, etc. Do politicians control these? Not really. They can put in place policies that affect these 'day-to-day' living expenses. There's a simple question regarding that topic. Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?
--Bob

ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

If God knew...

Then I guess he's okay with results?

ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

Whether you follow the GOP is not relevant. It is the importance of the issue that the "we" (minority of v**ers, apparently). I do not mean to disparage you, only your belief that "we" can win this issue, A******n/Choice. That was decided yesterday. Do you deny the results?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Well, Steve, you muddied the waters of this discussion by bringing in religion. Of course, it's a difficult subject to discuss without doing so.

On the contrary, the Jewish religion has quite a different view of pregnancy and a******n. Jewish law does not share the belief common among a******n opponents that life begins at conception, nor does it legally consider the fetus to be a full person deserving of protections equal to those accorded to human beings. In Jewish law, a fetus attains the status of a full person only at birth.

Then, there is the atheists, who may have an entirely different opinion on this subject.

But, here's the dichotomous fact to consider. If someone k**ls a pregnant woman, they are charged with two counts of murder. That should give one pause to consider.
--Bob

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Art, my mention of a******n was to note that it may have had an effect on the v****g outcome. The reality of the situation is there are far more people trying to purchase necessities than those seeking a******ns. I think there was an e******n slogan, some years ago, "it's the economy, stupid". I think that should have still held true yesterday.
--Bob

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Just me but what I saw was the republican candidates vocal
Position was- merely we aren’t democrats and will stop what democrats are doing. Their websites maybe had specifics but I doubt many v**ers research candidate web sites .
Bottom line they had no plan , no ideAs how they would help Americans in the economy .

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

What I noticed, locally, was the various candidate's mantras were either 'v**e for me because the other candidate is a ___________' or political action groups were buying advertising time to express v**e for this candidate because the other one is a loser.

I don't remember hearing too many adverts expressing what a particular candidate was going to attempt to achieve.

So, your observation that there was no real plan is probably a good one.
--Bob

ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

"It's the Economy stupid!" Steve Carvel Democrat Strategist... married to a RNC Strategist, I believe was credited for that quote. Yesterday we learned, "It's freedom of choice... Men!" lol

SteveR Loc: Michigan

What is the sixth commandment, Art? God's attitude towards murder is evident both in the Old Testament and New Testament. Murderers are among the list in the N.T. of those bound for Hell (although the gift of Salvation is still available to them through Faith. I know that many have turned to Christ while facing their own mortality on death row).

The quick answer is, "no," He is not okay with this. However, in His great wisdom, He chose to create sentient beings with the power of choice. First the angels, some of whom, along with Lucifer, did sin and rebel against God. Then, man, who created sinless, but with choice, also chose to rebel against God. God, indeed, foresaw all of this and provided ways of Redemption. In the Old Testament, there were sacrifices to be made. These sacrifices, though, were based on the Faith of what God had told them, including Adam, Cain, Abel, and Abraham, etc., to do. They believed Him (all except Cain), and it was accounted as Righteousness for them. However, if you read Leviticus, these animal sacrifices had to be made continually to cover ongoing sin. The Law was a teacher, in that is taught those following it that it was impossible to be sinless and Righteous. There was only one way to cover all the sins of all men who ever lived and who ever might live. That is through the shedding of the blood of God Himself. That is why the Father sent the Son, Jesus Christ, to first present Himself as Messiah to the Jews, which He knew would be rejected, and then to die on the Cross, shedding His blood for the sins of all mankind. The blood of Jesus Christ if sufficient to cover all sin. And only Jesus Christ. Just as with Adam and then Abraham, all God asks is that the individual believe. In this case, believe that Christ died for your sins and rose again that you, too, might rise again. It is interesting to note that, historically, the animal sacrifices that took place at the Temple in Jerusalem ceased just a few years after the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ when the Romans destroyed Herod's Temple, which has never been rebuilt.

In the end, God will Redeem all things, including the earth. All things will be judged, including Lucifer and the fallen angels who will be bound and cast into Hell. Those who murdered and remained unrepentent and unsaved will be judged accordingly. So, no, evil is not okay with God, but it was necessary for a time in order not only to create man as he is, but the angels who serve both Him and us.

If you wonder about Angels serving us, ask me how the helped me to deliver a dog to a woman who needed one so badly. I'm not kidding.