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Oct 29, 2022 13:53:49   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
davidrb wrote:
Many operators of towing companies refuse to put EVs on their roll-backs. If the vehicle it is t***sporting catches fire the roll-back is toast! Not many will risk their equipment just to carry the fadish EVs. How many EVs are in Florida?


Yes, EV's that have been sudmerged in salt water...A healthy EV is just as safe as a healthy ICE vehicle....

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Oct 29, 2022 15:18:58   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
davidrb wrote:
Many operators of towing companies refuse to put EVs on their roll-backs. If the vehicle it is t***sporting catches fire the roll-back is toast! Not many will risk their equipment just to carry the fadish EVs. How many EVs are in Florida?

Evidently quite a few Tesla in Florida. In Florida there are eleven Tesla Service Centers. Many throughout the USA.
https://www.tesla.com/findus/list/services/United%20States

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Oct 29, 2022 21:08:29   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The infrastructure to support the e-car does not exist. And nobody to my knowledge has said when it will appear.
dennis2146 wrote:
While I do not have the articles at hand I have seen at least two news articles where Tesla vehicles caught fire and could not be extinguished until the fire department buried the vehicle. Maybe the Chevy Bolt had a problem but apparently so does Tesla and most likely any other electric vehicle.

But your comment seems not to address the present situation of no electric power means no charging batteries in electric vehicles. You also seem to neglect the present situation in California where electricity can be on and off for long periods of time because the electrical grid is not able to handle even every day electrical use by the millions of users. Throw in electric vehicles and the entire state can come to a stand still. Now please explain the best you can how electric vehicles are a blessing for mankind especially when there are years worth of natural fuels right beneath our feet except the STUPID Democrats don't want to use those fuels.

Dennis
While I do not have the articles at hand I have se... (show quote)

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Oct 30, 2022 01:31:33   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
dpullum wrote:
No, the Democrats are not i***ts for pushing for E Cars. The few fires after Ian, 4 reported, were aimed at the threat to as is life, Tesla, ... then comment was made about E-Cars in garages catching fire... but the news did not mention that it was a GM Bolt problem... implying it was Tesla... which it was not.

The Tesla battery system is sealed and so unless very damage salt water would not get in to cause problems. So the post here is doing a panic/h**e on E Cars and the 4 fires... never mentioning the ICE 150/day fires based on gasoline.

While I understand the are detailed t***h is distasteful to Republicans who live on fear and h**e of others and change ... Read if you dare:
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/06/03/500-gas-car-fires-per-day-can-we-please-get-serious-about-electric-car-battery-fires/
No, the Democrats are not i***ts for pushing for E... (show quote)


Do you ever proof read your rants for coherence?

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Oct 30, 2022 07:02:09   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
anotherview wrote:
The infrastructure to support the e-car does not exist. And nobody to my knowledge has said when it will appear.


As they say, truer words were never spoken. Left wants America to completely accept electric vehicles even knowing in many cases they represent a complete failure to accomplish what people normally want in a vehicle, that would be mainly the simple ability to from point A to point B without having to stop for a few hours to recharge the vehicle. I often drive from Southern California in my Dodge diesel pickup truck to Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming, perhaps New York and so on. The thought of driving hopefully 200 miles and then having to stop and recharge the batteries, IF I honestly could get 200 miles borders on the ridiculous at best. Then when one adds in the danger of the vehicle catching on fire and the fire department not being able to put the fire out, the problems of storing batteries that can't be successfully recharged, the very high cost of new batteries and so on it would seem that electric vehicles are a total failure at this time in their development.

America has sufficient oil and natural gas to fill our gas tanks for years. We have coal to power large electrical plants. We have known that for a long time but now the Left tells us there is not natural fuels for years so the rush to go into electric vehicles even though they know states are not able to successfully make use of electrical power. California cannot even power normal day by day electrical usage across the state. This is the Left Wing promoting failure for America.

In perhaps 100 years another source of energy will be found that is better than electrical or gas powered vehicles. Until that time comes I am happy with a diesel truck that goes where I want and when I want.

Dennis

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Oct 30, 2022 09:59:15   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Here in Southern California, the power utility shuts down its service for 2 or 3 days at a stretch in response to weather conditions that may down power lines that in turn start fires. How does an e-car perform under this regime, now and in the future?

A homeowner can install a solar power system that includes solar panels, storage batteries, and a whole-house backup power generator to provide electricity during these system shutdowns.

But what if a citizen occupies an apartment in an apartment complex without capability for recharging an e-car?

We have here an example of putting the cart before the horse.
dennis2146 wrote:
As they say, truer words were never spoken. Left wants America to completely accept electric vehicles even knowing in many cases they represent a complete failure to accomplish what people normally want in a vehicle, that would be mainly the simple ability to from point A to point B without having to stop for a few hours to recharge the vehicle. I often drive from Southern California in my Dodge diesel pickup truck to Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming, perhaps New York and so on. The thought of driving hopefully 200 miles and then having to stop and recharge the batteries, IF I honestly could get 200 miles borders on the ridiculous at best. Then when one adds in the danger of the vehicle catching on fire and the fire department not being able to put the fire out, the problems of storing batteries that can't be successfully recharged, the very high cost of new batteries and so on it would seem that electric vehicles are a total failure at this time in their development.

America has sufficient oil and natural gas to fill our gas tanks for years. We have coal to power large electrical plants. We have known that for a long time but now the Left tells us there is not natural fuels for years so the rush to go into electric vehicles even though they know states are not able to successfully make use of electrical power. California cannot even power normal day by day electrical usage across the state. This is the Left Wing promoting failure for America.

In perhaps 100 years another source of energy will be found that is better than electrical or gas powered vehicles. Until that time comes I am happy with a diesel truck that goes where I want and when I want.

Dennis
As they say, truer words were never spoken. Left ... (show quote)

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Oct 30, 2022 11:42:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
anotherview wrote:
Here in Southern California, the power utility shuts down its service for 2 or 3 days at a stretch in response to weather conditions that may down power lines that in turn start fires. How does an e-car perform under this regime, now and in the future?

A homeowner can install a solar power system that includes solar panels, storage batteries, and a whole-house backup power generator to provide electricity during these system shutdowns.

But what if a citizen occupies an apartment in an apartment complex without capability for recharging an e-car?

We have here an example of putting the cart before the horse.
Here in Southern California, the power utility shu... (show quote)


Exactly right. But this ass backward situation seems completely normal to Left Wing liars who support a corrupt agenda. So far there is absolutely nothing wrong with gas powered vehicles and coal powered power plants. Lots wrong with solar and wind generated power since it takes far more money and anti green policies to produce the power level of a coal fired power plant. Yet the i***ts on the Left insist their way is better without proof.

Dennis

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