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Oct 19, 2022 09:41:25   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
davidrb wrote:
The only thing "wrong" with these pictures is the subject. Real estate lies about most things in a listing so who will notice it in their photographs? A friend recently complimented me on the "art work" in my house. I asked how she knew, since she had never been IN my house. She had "seen" it on Zillow! Zillow had never been in my house either. Zillow had fabricated a similar room setting. They had overlooked the fact the west wall is almost completely glass and had placed a "bay" window centered in that wall.
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That is strange. In my experience, Zillow has used photos published by a Realtor when the house was last ‘for sale’.

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Oct 19, 2022 09:55:17   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
rehess wrote:
That is strange. In my experience, Zillow has used photos published by a Realtor when the house was last ‘for sale’.


The previous owner, a good friend, never had the house arranged as it is shown. She was her own realtor for the house's only sale.

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Oct 19, 2022 10:25:40   #
MikeT46 Loc: Hermantown,MN
 
I agree with the others who found the images very acceptable. The colors seem quite realistic, rather than artificially saturated (for artistic rendering).

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Oct 19, 2022 10:39:30   #
Bayou
 
The images are ALL a stop or so over exposed. For all to be overexposed points to a global (to this shoot anyway) issue. Perhaps the exposure compensation setting was askew. More likely is that the monitor used to process the shots is set too dark, resulting in ALL the photos being over brightened in PP. Modern monitors do gradually change, and do naturally grow dim. Frequent calibration is important.

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Oct 19, 2022 11:00:45   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
davidrb wrote:
The only thing "wrong" with these pictures is the subject. Real estate lies about most things in a listing so who will notice it in their photographs? A friend recently complimented me on the "art work" in my house. I asked how she knew, since she had never been IN my house. She had "seen" it on Zillow! Zillow had never been in my house either. Zillow had fabricated a similar room setting. They had overlooked the fact the west wall is almost completely glass and had placed a "bay" window centered in that wall. You're complaining about colors being incorrect? Photoshop is the tool of choice when accuracy in not an object considered highly.
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Zillow did that? They had pictures of your art work on a fabricated room When I look on zillion houses that have not been on the market recently simply show the exterior view.

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Oct 19, 2022 12:33:22   #
All1317
 
1. Isaw nothing wrong, 2. Y didn't u make a backup which every other photographer on earth has learned to do and now u have learned the hard way if u haven't formatted ur card since u could just plug just the card not the camera into the computer and view them u might get lucky and retrieve a few

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Oct 19, 2022 12:58:05   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
All1317 wrote:
1. Isaw nothing wrong, 2. Y didn't u make a backup which every other photographer on earth has learned to do and now u have learned the hard way if u haven't formatted ur card since u could just plug just the card not the camera into the computer and view them u might get lucky and retrieve a few

The customer requires that he delete them. A backup would would not serve any useful purpose.

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Oct 19, 2022 13:02:57   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
twosummers wrote:
A few weeks ago I took some real estate photographs using my Canon R with EF wide angle zoom (my usual kit for these jobs). I used a tripod and flash as per normal. I shoot in RAW with some post-processing to straighten verticals and crop as required.

As soon as the agent confirms receipt of the images I am asked (and do) delete my files.

Shock horror - when I happened to look at them today I was not happy with the colours (no HDR used). Any and all advice would be gratefully received - thank you.

Here is the link to the MLS page -

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/127668422#/?channel=RES_BUY

As always keep safe
A few weeks ago I took some real estate photograph... (show quote)

Is it possible the images were changed by when the customer received them or uploaded them? Possibly could be a color profile issue or maybe the customer “adjusted” them? If their monitor was out of Wack they might have adjusted them.

Q: You are using a calibrated monitor in post, correct?

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Oct 19, 2022 13:41:06   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
I hate to keep sayg this because folks are gonna think I am old as Methuselah and started in commercial photography during the Peloponnesian War (431–404 BC) but chronologically and experience-wise speaking it's been over half a century.

I have done my share of interior and exterior architectural and real estate work, food and beverage layouts, and all kinds of people, places and stuff. In all that time I can't remember any client, real estate agent or broker, art director, a private or corporate client asking me to misrepresent anything, commit outright fakery, or participate in any kind of false advertising, consumer fraud or all sorts of dodgy shenanigans. I was never asked to destroy negative or transparency or delete a file. I have been asked to not show certain images in my portfolio or online while an advertising campaign is in the works, that is until the advertisement is published. I have a policy NEVER to sell imagesproducts for my commercial client to any other commercial entity.

Some of the folks on the forum are continuously worried about over-processing, too much saturation, etc. So, consider this. Most commercial clients simply want their products and/or services to be represented in the best light, perhaps in the most ideal settings and stylizations. Just as an average portrat client would not want to appear unkempt with seemingly ill-fittg clothing in a portrait, a realtor would not want an advertised property to seem messy and poorly maintained, and at least want it shown tidily or modestly decorated. In high-end home sales usually, things are expected to be professionally decorated and just so.

A competent, conscientious, and ethical photographer will do his or her best to address a wide variety of situations and work with and idealize whatever furnishings are at their disposal. In my opinion, an incompetent or inexperienced photographer is more likely to poorly render an aesthetically pleasing interior and not adequately illustrate its potential, than a good photograher will exaggerate or misrepresent a mediocre location.

"PhotoShop" is not the work of the devil and it ain't anything new! In the ancient days of film, there were several colour transparency films from Kodak alone with varying degrees of colour saturation. You could pick a Professional Ektachrome emulsion for authentic or exaggerated colour rendition, go to Kodachrome or try several Fuji or Agfa offering for other colours and saturation and biases. More manipulation was often applied in the colour separation process and AIRBRUSH was the old PhotoShop!

There are a few ongoing TV programmes about folks buyg, selling and renovating houses. There is one where the realtor tasks the clients with 3 various properties. The most frequent comment I have observed for the buyers is something like "I can see myself or my family living here". Sometimes the property is in need of extensive renovation but something about it- the size, the location, the view from the widows, the way light comes in-etc. whatever strikes them. So, when I go to shoot an interior, I try to put myself in the viewer's place and try to find somethg special- sometimes its a simple detail.

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Oct 19, 2022 18:00:08   #
jbhess
 
Franky, I agree with Linda, my first impression was that the pictures were slightly out of focusl

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Oct 19, 2022 19:43:14   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Low contrast, punch it up. Now t bad for RE sales photos.

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Oct 19, 2022 22:19:11   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Low contrast, punch it up. Now t bad for RE sales photos.
What a wonderfully condescending reply!! Thank goodness the mitigating element is the spelling error. Just saying.

If you didn’t mean it that way you might want to re-think how it appears to others.

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Oct 22, 2022 13:47:30   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
Thanks everyone - this job was for a "new" agency that I had not done any work for in the past. When working for agents directly (and as an agent myself) I became happy with my photographs (having studied the subject for some time) also using my previous agency I did not have any issues. This particular agency pays a very poor standard rate and tells the seller that a maximum of one hour will be required for photographs and floor plan measuring. I'm convinced that the agency may have reduced the images (from massive) before uploading to rightmove (who also set an upper yet generous maximum image size.

However I take on board all of your suggestions and examples - thank you all

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