Course's for using a Smartphone for Photography
Aug 9, 2022 18:38:06 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
dustie wrote:
This may be only a hillbilly observation, so there's that to consider.
Not all DSLRs are capable of saving RAW files, correct?
Not all DSLRs are capable of saving RAW files, correct?
Long long ago maybe but I can't think of one now. I'd say incorrect.
Anyway for my purposes that's a show stopper: I won't use a camera that can't save raw files.
dustie wrote:
Probably, (just a guess) camera makers added that capability to more models as requests and market demand for it increased.
There is movement that direction in the cellular pocket cameras, and I'd hazard an uneducated guess that capability/availability will increase as requests and market demand for it increase.
There is movement that direction in the cellular pocket cameras, and I'd hazard an uneducated guess that capability/availability will increase as requests and market demand for it increase.
Aug 9, 2022 18:39:17 #
blthomas438 wrote:
I have been seeing courses now being offered on ho... (show quote)
I don't pretend to know what has hurt the camera companies, but I do believe you are way off base with phone cameras, although I would have agreed with you until last week, when I attended a (virtual) meeting of the Baltimore Camera Club, and Karen Klinedinst offered a presentation on smartphone photography. Frankly, I didn't expect much, but I figured I'd attend for the opportunity to schmooze with other members, and then leave the meeting when the smartphone crap started.
Then she showed some of her phone photographs, and they were a real testament to the notion that cameras don't make images, photographers do. Sure, my D850 probably has more pixels than her iPhone, but I don't believe anyone can quibble with her bloody images. Google her, Thomas, and see for yourself.
Aug 9, 2022 19:39:05 #
lreisner
Loc: Union,NJ
Ysarex wrote:
Can it save a raw file? And if so how?
If you have a Lightroom subscription then download the LR App for the phone. You can set that camera to automatically save in DNG format which is LR's version of raw. You will also have the ability to fully edit your pictures and to have them automatically saved to your computer. If you use lightroom then you will want to periodically delete the pictures from your cloud account once you save them to your hard drive so you do not use up your 20gbs of cloud storage.
If you use the Samsung camera provided, you can only save in raw in the professional mode. I still have to learn exactly how to do it. I am fairly new to the Ultra. The Samsung app supports the extreme zoom lens which the lightroom camera does not for some reason.
Aug 9, 2022 19:59:51 #
cbtsam wrote:
I don't pretend to know what has hurt the camera c... (show quote)
I just looked at some of her smartphone work. Very nice!!!
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Aug 9, 2022 20:03:51 #
Bill_de wrote:
I just looked at some of her smartphone work. Very nice!!!
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I agree. Stunning.
Aug 9, 2022 20:40:55 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
lreisner wrote:
If you have a Lightroom subscription then download the LR App for the phone. You can set that camera to automatically save in DNG format which is LR's version of raw.
DNG is a format Adobe created in an attempt to offer a universal camera format. It can be raw but it can also not be raw.
I've found DNG samples on the Internet from the s22. They are often called "Expert RAW" format. One critical thing about them: THEY ARE NOT RAW. They are RGB images in a DNG wrapper.
So still my question: Can the s22 save a raw file? and how?
lreisner wrote:
You will also have the ability to fully edit your pictures and to have them automatically saved to your computer. If you use lightroom then you will want to periodically delete the pictures from your cloud account once you save them to your hard drive so you do not use up your 20gbs of cloud storage.
If you use the Samsung camera provided, you can only save in raw in the professional mode.
If you use the Samsung camera provided, you can only save in raw in the professional mode.
I assume this is the mode that produces those "Expert RAW" not raw files.
lreisner wrote:
I still have to learn exactly how to do it. I am fairly new to the Ultra. The Samsung app supports the extreme zoom lens which the lightroom camera does not for some reason.
Aug 11, 2022 06:34:55 #
blthomas438 wrote:
I have been seeing courses now being offered on ho... (show quote)
Smartphones have improved greatly over the past few years. Take a look at the 2022 Award Winners. https://www.ippawards.com/?v=7516fd43adaa
Aug 12, 2022 09:31:59 #
Portdoc, if you go to The Great Courses alternate site, www.watchgreatcourses.com, the smartphone camera course you referred to is on sale for $35.00. So are all their other courses.
While most of us looking in on UHH fined the smartphone camera "lacking" for our interests/uses/purposes in photography, it is nice to know we generally always have a camera in our pocket at all times now, isn't it?
P.S. anyone heard anything about the rumor that the iPhone 16 will have a 24mp camera?? Also Popular Photography has an interesting article entitled,"Is it time to say good-buy to the Compact Camera?!" Might be worth a read if the subject of this thread interests you.
While most of us looking in on UHH fined the smartphone camera "lacking" for our interests/uses/purposes in photography, it is nice to know we generally always have a camera in our pocket at all times now, isn't it?
P.S. anyone heard anything about the rumor that the iPhone 16 will have a 24mp camera?? Also Popular Photography has an interesting article entitled,"Is it time to say good-buy to the Compact Camera?!" Might be worth a read if the subject of this thread interests you.
Aug 13, 2022 06:25:15 #
Harry0
Loc: Gardena, Cal
Longshadow wrote:
But what if the phone camera will meet their needs?
What if they don't NEED a "real" camera?
I suppose they're wrong then?
Just because you poo-poo cell phone cameras doesn't mean everyone should.
Beginner market???
Most of them are probably "Look, my cell phone has a camera too.".
They are the new Instamatic buyers. But cell phone cameras can do so much more than Instamatics!
Some cell phone cameras are excellent by the way.
What if they don't NEED a "real" camera?
I suppose they're wrong then?
Just because you poo-poo cell phone cameras doesn't mean everyone should.
Beginner market???
Most of them are probably "Look, my cell phone has a camera too.".
They are the new Instamatic buyers. But cell phone cameras can do so much more than Instamatics!
Some cell phone cameras are excellent by the way.
It's also evolution.
I started with 120 film and folders. and Sunny 16. Then meters.
Family picnic? A couple rolls of film, maybe. Eight shots each. C-ya in two weeks.
Turn of the century- this last one- I went digital.
All-In-0ne. No meters to carry. A couple hundred shots. See now!
It's also culture(s).
Newer generations are more minimalist.
Don't need to carry a camera AND a phone AND a laptop.
You want attention? Carry that big ol camera with a big ol lens in a big ol city.
Cops and kids: Are you a journalist? A spy? A criminal?
Who do you work for? Papers please.
I went to the Greek (outdoor) theatre- with a A900. Got attention.
Cell phone pics were OK- but they didn't want "pros" shooting in there.
Mu new iphone SE wasn't an issue. Anywhere. At all.
The under-40 groups have tech on one side and Pavlov on the other.
$3000 for a lens? That's a phone and a month's rent, pops!
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Aug 13, 2022 06:42:11 #
Harry0
Loc: Gardena, Cal
insman1132 wrote:
Portdoc, if you go to The Great Courses alternate ... (show quote)
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