Course's for using a Smartphone for Photography: I have been seeing courses now being offered on how to use a smartphone for Photography. This is what has hurt the camera companies in...

blthomas438 Loc: Lewisberry Pennsylvania

I have been seeing courses now being offered on how to use a smartphone for Photography. This is what has hurt the camera companies in the beginner and compact auto camera market's. I have a Samsung s22ultra and it has a great camera, that I Hardly ever use. I have 2 real Nikon DSLR' and 10 lenses. No smartphone camera can match that equipment. I wish people would realize this and buy real cameras. But I have issues with the camera companies trying to complete with smart phones buy changing over to MirrorLess cameras. I have tried several of Nikon's modles and they all feel too compact and plasticky. I have always liked a Heavy solid camera that feels professional. I guess I'm old school, I started photography in highschool and got my first Nikon camera in 1979. I have loved photography and Nikon cameras ever since. Through the years I have done weddings and other types of professional work for friends and for clients alike. I will say a smartphone will be ok to a novice but not a person with a real camera kit. Sorry for the rant but, it's still sad to see how much the smartphone has devastated the beginner market.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

blthomas438 wrote:

... I wish people would realize this and buy real cameras.....

But what if the phone camera will meet their needs?
What if they don't NEED a "real" camera?

I suppose they're wrong then?
Just because you poo-poo cell phone cameras doesn't mean everyone should.

Beginner market???
Most of them are probably "Look, my cell phone has a camera too.".
They are the new Instamatic buyers. But cell phone cameras can do so much more than Instamatics!
Some cell phone cameras are excellent by the way.

cwp3420

blthomas438 wrote:

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It seems it used to be primarily the young people using their phones as cameras, but lately I’ve seen older people too using them. I still prefer my Fuji X-T4 to my iPhone camera though. I think some photographers have just gotten lazy and take the easy way out by using a phone.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

blthomas438 wrote:

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The switch to mirrorless is not about competing with cell phone cameras.

blthomas438 wrote:

I have tried several of Nikon's modles and they all feel too compact and plasticky. I have always liked a Heavy solid camera that feels professional.

My Leica SL is mirrorless and neither compact or plasticky. Mirrorless isn't the cause of your gripes.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Ysarex wrote:

... Mirrorless isn't the cause of your gripes.

tramsey Loc: Texas

I use my cell phone to call my wife and tell her I don't know where I am. I use the camera in the cell phone to show her and then I use my Nikon d850 to take a nice portrait of her in appreciation when I get home.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Even since the first Kodak camera (You push the button, we do the rest.) a large part of the public just wanted a simple camera to take snapshots. There has always been a much larger market for point and shoot cameras than "serious" cameras. Now with cell phone cameras, those people have a camera which takes MUCH better photos than film point and shoot cameras.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

JohnSwanda wrote:

Even since the first Kodak camera (You push the button, we do the rest.) a large part of the public just wanted a simple camera to take snapshots. There has always been a much larger market for point and shoot cameras than "serious" cameras. Now with cell phone cameras, those people have a camera which takes MUCH better photos than film point and shoot cameras.

Just Shoot Me Loc: Ithaca, NY

Longshadow wrote:

But what if the phone camera will meet their needs?
What if they don't NEED a "real" camera?

I suppose they're wrong then?
Just because you poo-poo cell phone cameras doesn't mean everyone should.

Beginner market???
Most of them are probably "Look, my cell phone has a camera too.".
They are the new Instamatic buyers. But cell phone cameras can do so much more than Instamatics!
Some cell phone cameras are excellent by the way.

Some cell phone cameras are excellent by the way.

And then some. My son doesn't subscribe to iPhones but just got an Android type with all the bells and whistles.
I tried to "wow" him with one of my moon shots taken with a 600mm lens and he came back with one he took that blew me away with detail and zoomed like mine. My phone is always with me but my camera is not.

Ron

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Just Shoot Me wrote:

Some cell phone cameras are excellent by the way.

And then some. My son doesn't subscribe to iPhones but just got an Android type with all the bells and whistles.
I tried to "wow" him with one of my moon shots taken with a 600mm lens and he came back with one he took that blew me away with detail and zoomed like mine. My phone is always with me but my camera is not.

Ron

They rival many DSLRs.
'Tis a shame so many people are biased against them.

My S21 does well, as did my S-III.
I also have my cell with me also when out and about.

streetmarty Loc: Brockton, Ma

tramsey wrote:

I use my cell phone to call my wife and tell her I don't know where I am. I use the camera in the cell phone to show her and then I use my Nikon d850 to take a nice portrait of her in appreciation when I get home.

Perfect! 👍👏

uhaas2009

The best camera is the one you have with you. It’s a saying and it’s true, too.
Sure my Nikon don’t replace my cell.

jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA

tramsey wrote:

I use my cell phone to call my wife and tell her I don't know where I am. I use the camera in the cell phone to show her and then I use my Nikon d850 to take a nice portrait of her in appreciation when I get home.

gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

Cameras combined with cell phones are "real cameras". As with any cameras, one has to become familiar with their strengths and their weaknesses. I recall back-in-the-day that there was a professional photographer who took beautiful photos with a Polaroid camera, taking advantage of its soft film quality. Many SLR aficionados of the day scoffed at the Polaroid for not being a real camera.