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Aug 9, 2022 15:11:41   #
portdoc Loc: Oregon
 
Consider:
The Great Courses
https://www.thegreatcourses.com
The Complete Guide to Smartphone Photography.

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Aug 9, 2022 16:06:45   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
dustie wrote:
You don't really have to suffer the onerous indignity of carrying a cell phone, though.
You can buy a quality camera that has a phone feature, but do not buy and activate the required service plan to make the phone feature activated and operational. No ongoing, recurring phone fees. You'll just carry a pocket-sized quality camera that has an unused phone feature without the added stigma of being a cell phone user.

😊 . 😁


I didn't realize that. Somebody had told me a while ago that you needed the phone feature to move the photos.

Thanks!

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Aug 9, 2022 16:15:16   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
Bill_de wrote:
I didn't realize that. Somebody had told me a while ago that you needed the phone feature to move the photos.

Thanks!

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I don't know about Androids but with iPhones you don't need it. It's a separate operation and has nothing to do with the phone feature.

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Aug 9, 2022 16:16:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bill_de wrote:
I didn't realize that. Somebody had told me a while ago that you needed the phone feature to move the photos.

Thanks!

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Can't plug the phone into a computer and copy them from the phone to the computer?
I could with my S-III.

Won't work over WIFI? Don't need cell service for WIFI.
Transfer via the internet to the cloud and pull down on a computer.

I wonder where your someone got his information...

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Aug 9, 2022 16:30:57   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm sorry to say that I'm not a good phone photographer. I get my fingers in front of the lens, or I don't hold the "camera" steady.


Emile Pakarklis on YouTube shows a good technique. Phone in left hand, grip with thumb in front and two fingers in the back, lens to the right, right hand underneath left hand for support and press the shutter with right thumb. Easy to do after you watch the video. Kind of like holding a pistol and steadying it with the other hand under the grip.

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Aug 9, 2022 16:38:34   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
gvarner wrote:
Emile Pakarklis on YouTube shows a good technique. Phone in left hand, grip with thumb in front and two fingers in the back, lens to the right, right hand underneath left hand for support and press the shutter with right thumb. Easy to do after you watch the video. Kind of like holding a pistol and steadying it with the other hand under the grip.


It's an excellent course and I highly recommend it. I caught it on sale so it was pretty cheap but I think it would be worth the money even at full price, if you're interested in taking better photos with your cell phone. His course is about and focused (no pun intended) on iPhones but I think many of the principles would apply to Androids also.

If you have no interest in cell phone photography then forget it; it would be a waste of time and money.

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Aug 9, 2022 16:44:08   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
blthomas438 wrote:
I have been seeing courses now being offered on how to use a smartphone for Photography. This is what has hurt the camera companies in the beginner and compact auto camera market's. I have a Samsung s22ultra and it has a great camera, that I Hardly ever use. I have 2 real Nikon DSLR' and 10 lenses. No smartphone camera can match that equipment. I wish people would realize this and buy real cameras. But I have issues with the camera companies trying to complete with smart phones buy changing over to MirrorLess cameras. I have tried several of Nikon's modles and they all feel too compact and plasticky. I have always liked a Heavy solid camera that feels professional. I guess I'm old school, I started photography in highschool and got my first Nikon camera in 1979. I have loved photography and Nikon cameras ever since. Through the years I have done weddings and other types of professional work for friends and for clients alike. I will say a smartphone will be ok to a novice but not a person with a real camera kit. Sorry for the rant but, it's still sad to see how much the smartphone has devastated the beginner market.
I have been seeing courses now being offered on ho... (show quote)


It is quite obvious that you haven't been using your S22ultra which is the same cellphone I have. Point one, a cell phone camera is a camera. Point 2, a top of the line line phone camera from Sony, Samsung, Google and possibly some others can be used professionally with no problem depending on the end result needed. I am now in Iceland with my Sony A7RIV, Sony RX100 7 and my cellphone. My cell phone actually has two cameras on it, using the same lenses. I have the lightroom camera which allows me to shoot in raw and I have the Samsung camera, which has an amazing zoom that out does my RX 10 III. I love shooting with my Sony mirror less but the weather here has been really bad both with rain and wind. That automatically prevents me from changing lenses and often it was just to wet take chances on damaging the camera or lens, even though they are weather sealed. The cellphone can be used in any weather and with their amazing lenses and ability to shoot great video, it has been a lifesaver. Will I have problems printing the cellphone pictures later, probably not since I could use Topaz Gigapixel or Lightroom to up the resolution if needed, or other software to enhance the pictures for printing.

For making photo books or posting online, there is no way you could tell if I shot the picture with a cellphone or with my Sony. I noted that I would prefer to shoot with my Sony Mirrorless because in the end it gives me a lot more to work with when editing an image, but it is not a deal breaker.

Another advantage to the cellphone is that you can edit the picture using Lightroom, or another app and put the picture right out there the way you want it. Using the pen on the ultra makes editing on a cellphone realistic and easy.

The bottom line is that for many the cellphone camera is all they need. Cameras are tools to get the job done. You need to be proficient in using those tools. If your shooting a wedding or professional shoot then a top of the line SLR or Mirror less is what you need, but the day is fast approaching when a cellphone camera will do the job as well. As has been noted, the best camera that one has, is the one they have on them at the time. Many journalist now use their cellphones to file pictures along with their news stories, especially in conflict zones.

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Aug 9, 2022 16:48:50   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
lreisner wrote:
It is quite obvious that you haven't been using your S22ultra which is the same cellphone I have.

Can it save a raw file? And if so how?

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Aug 9, 2022 17:05:38   #
RightOnPhotography Loc: Quebec,QC
 
Quick course for Smartphone for Photography (free):

1) Turn on your phone's camera
2) point the smartphone at the subject
3) by using two fingers, fit the subject on the screen
4) touch the screen to complete the shot.

Congratulations! You successfully completed the course and you are now a certified smartphone photographer.

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Aug 9, 2022 17:14:22   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
RightOnPhotography wrote:
Quick course for Smartphone for Photography (free):

1) Turn on your phone's camera
2) point the smartphone at the subject
3) by using two fingers, fit the subject on the screen
4) touch the screen to complete the shot.

Congratulations! You successfully completed the course and you are now a certified smartphone photographer.


Not sure if you're being serious, facetious or if this is an attempt at humor. Either way, you failed.

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Aug 9, 2022 17:38:55   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
Bill_de wrote:
I didn't realize that. Somebody had told me a while ago that you needed the phone feature to move the photos.

Thanks!

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In his comment above, Longshadow mentioned a couple possible methods of moving photos from the phone.

A few more things to consider:

a -- If the phone has expandable memory via micro SD card, the card can be used to move photos to another compatible device. The card allows more flexibility than just moving photos, too, if need be.....i.e., need some portable external storage space?

b -- Bluetooth can transfer photos between capable devices.

c -- Though the screen is not as large as your desktop monitor, it is possible to do a fair amount of photo editing in your quality camera, if the need arises.
There is probably already a default editor built in that can do some things, but there are more capable apps available, made specifically for the portable, quality, touchscreen cameras.

Not having the phone function enabled does not really diminish your photo options in that quality pocket camera.
It's just a little different handling actions than what you're accustomed to in the conventional camera body style.

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Aug 9, 2022 17:50:14   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
Ysarex wrote:
Can it save a raw file? And if so how?



This may be only a hillbilly observation, so there's that to consider.

Not all DSLRs are capable of saving RAW files, correct?
Probably, (just a guess) camera makers added that capability to more models as requests and market demand for it increased.

There is movement that direction in the cellular pocket cameras, and I'd hazard an uneducated guess that capability/availability will increase as requests and market demand for it increase.

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Aug 9, 2022 17:56:05   #
HRoss Loc: Longmont, CO
 
uhaas2009 wrote:
The best camera is the one you have with you. It’s a saying and it’s true, too.
Sure my Nikon don’t replace my cell.



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Aug 9, 2022 18:12:10   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
dustie wrote:
This may be only a hillbilly observation, so there's that to consider.

Not all DSLRs are capable of saving RAW files, correct?
Probably, (just a guess) camera makers added that capability to more models as requests and market demand for it increased.

There is movement that direction in the cellular pocket cameras, and I'd hazard an uneducated guess that capability/availability will increase as requests and market demand for it increase.


I think you are correct. It is the same as all the other camera/app features that have been added over the years - they are all trying to increase their market share. One way (the best way?) is to add features that consumers want so they will buy your product while passing up the other guy's. Steve Jobs had his faults but he was a marketing genius.

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Aug 9, 2022 18:23:20   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
stanikon wrote:
I think you are correct. It is the same as all the other camera/app features that have been added over the years - they are all trying to increase their market share. One way (the best way?) is to add features that consumers want so they will buy your product while passing up the other guy's. Steve Jobs had his faults but he was a marketing genius.



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