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Jul 5, 2022 20:56:01   #
gwilliams6
 
Strodav wrote:
What Sony's marketing department might have done (yes, I'm speculating) is to offer fantastic discounts and service guarantees on their equipment to the major photojournalism and news agencies for advertising purposes. It's done all the time in many different industries with many different products.


Sorry but this is the usual fake news, conspiracy theory floated by all that refuse to believe these news services picked their cameras for their innovation, performance, reliability, and durability. I personally know the top folks at AP, and Gannett, having shot for them in the past and they had similar bids from all makers but chose Sony for the reasons they state in the articles in the links I posted, NOT for some special financial deal better than Canon or Nikon. LOL.

But no one at UHH EVER looks at the reality, they just fall back on their fanboy picture of the photo world and cant believe many of the World's top photographers and News Services would choose to use Sony exclusively over their beloved Nikon and Canon, or Fuji.

Be honest folks, I bet no one even opened up and read any of the articles I linked from those news services stating the actual reasons why they switched,

AP , Associated Press was the first to move exclusively to Sony in 2020, and the other news services saw how that worked out covering events around the world including the Olympics, top Pro Sports and breaking news . Even competing news services and their photojournalists talk to each other, and when the word got out how well the Sonys worked for AP, other News Services followed in rapid succession around the world.

Folks wake up to the new reality, Sony continues to be a top innovator in fullframe mirrorless COMPLETE systems, cameras, sensors, lenses.

And for the only other big news service (AFP) Agence France Press that went with Nikon Z9, we now know the truth there is a Sony image sensor in the Z9 . UHH'ers vehemently denied that possibility when I suggested that after talking to Sony Managers I know when the excellent Nikon Z9 was announced.

Now this is out " A new report from the folks over at TechInsights just revealed the maker of the imaging sensor at the heart of the Nikon Z9 flagship mirrorless camera. And that sensor is, drum roll, please… The Sony IMX609AQJ.Jun 14, 2022"

Cheers, it is all good folks, just get the facts straight and stop the fake conspiracy theories that Sony somehow paid to get these news services to switch. LOL

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Jul 5, 2022 21:05:08   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
huemax wrote:
It is true to say that CAMERAS never take photos, but YOU do. However; YOU must have a camera to do your job.

We used to have over dozens of camera brands in last century (over 30 years ago), but today my choice is 4 or 5?
I would like to know how today's photographers favor which brand is the best. We must consider all those factors; what is capability of the equipment and system, pricing, reliability, service availability, and user friendly design.

I came up with four major names; SONY, FUJI. CANON, and NIKON. There were OLYMPUS, PENTAX, LEICA and PANASONIC a decade ago, what happened with them, are they still with us?
It is true to say that CAMERAS never take photos, ... (show quote)


All are still alive and releasing new models, although Pentax transitioned to a build-to-order model.

Each brand has found a separate niche of some sort. Their flagship models are ALL quite good.

Sony is now #2 behind Canon, with Nikon #3 in sales. Several press agencies are all Sony now.

Panasonic Lumix is very popular with independent filmmakers who also do still photography. Their new GH6 is a serious hybrid stills and video camera.

Olympus is reborn as OM Digital Solutions, and just released their OM-1 mirrorless interchangeable lens beast.

Fujifilm is making great APS-C and medium format digital gear, and top tier lenses.

Leica is a partner with Panasonic for many products, and shares their L-lens mount full frame specifications with Sigma and Panasonic.

It’s a smaller, “right-sized” market, but still innovative. Quality of most products is excellent. But there is no perfect camera for everyone. There is only the camera that works best for you.

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Jul 5, 2022 21:07:13   #
alamodoso
 
huemax wrote:
It is true to say that CAMERAS never take photos, but YOU do. However; YOU must have a camera to do your job.

We used to have over dozens of camera brands in last century (over 30 years ago), but today my choice is 4 or 5?
I would like to know how today's photographers favor which brand is the best. We must consider all those factors; what is capability of the equipment and system, pricing, reliability, service availability, and user friendly design.

I came up with four major names; SONY, FUJI. CANON, and NIKON. There were OLYMPUS, PENTAX, LEICA and PANASONIC a decade ago, what happened with them, are they still with us?
It is true to say that CAMERAS never take photos, ... (show quote)
. I use a Pentax K3...it does everything I need it to do ..see no reason to spend thousands on a new system that in all honesty won't improve my photography.

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Jul 5, 2022 21:09:28   #
gwilliams6
 
burkphoto wrote:
All are still alive and releasing new models, although Pentax transitioned to a build-to-order model.

Each brand has found a separate niche of some sort. Their flagship models are ALL quite good.

Sony is now #2 behind Canon, with Nikon #3 in sales. Several press agencies are all Sony now.

Panasonic Lumix is very popular with independent filmmakers who also do still photography. Their new GH6 is a serious hybrid stills and video camera.

Olympus is reborn as OM Digital Solutions, and just released their OM-1 mirrorless interchangeable lens beast.

Fujifilm is making great APS-C and medium format digital gear, and top tier lenses.

Leica is a partner with Panasonic for many products, and shares their L-lens mount full frame specifications with Sigma and Panasonic.

It’s a smaller, “right-sized” market, but still innovative. Quality of most products is excellent. But there is no perfect camera for everyone. There is only the camera that works best for you.
All are still alive and releasing new models, alth... (show quote)


In total camera sales, which includes DSLRs and compact cameras, Canon is #1 in worldwide sales, But Sony is #1 in mirrorless sales, and #1 in fullframe camera sales (DSLR or mirrorless) .

Read these articles and know the new reality among top news agencies and understand why they moved to Sony mirrorless for their staff photographers and staff videographers Worldwide.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

AFP Agence France Press helped develop the Nikon Z9 and that is what their staffers are using. (With a Sony sensor inside, Sony IMX609AQJ)
https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/


Cheers

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Jul 5, 2022 21:12:11   #
John Birmingham
 
I had a Minolta 100, I used it until I was 62. I selected the ASA film that felt was right for that days objective. I would take a few light readings set the aperture, Shutter speed and go to it.
I had fewer bad shots than when I bought my D750. I have learned to use less of the auto functions and use my judgement. I have fewer wasted shots.

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Jul 5, 2022 21:16:03   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DebAnn wrote:
The one I miss the most is Minolta. I had the first automatic Minolta and some superb Rokkor X lenses. I don't think they are topped by anything today - for me anyway.


Minolta merged with Konica and then got bought by Sony…

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Jul 5, 2022 21:23:48   #
gwilliams6
 
burkphoto wrote:
Minolta merged with Konica and then got bought by Sony…


Correct Burkphoto, and then Sony took off from there with its image sensor division and mirrorless innovation, and shockingly to a lot of folks became a leader in cameras and lenses in a relatively few short years, creating the first
fullframe mirrorless cameras, and starting a new segment that is now dominate in the pro market.

Cheers

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Jul 5, 2022 21:44:31   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, and how will the current "big sellers" be doing in fifty years?


I'll be looking forward to your report at that time Jerry!



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Jul 5, 2022 22:12:19   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Aggressive successful marketing.

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Jul 6, 2022 10:09:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DeanS wrote:
Wih Canon controlling roughly half the mkt, my guess is that Canon is more than likely the dominant brand. Just my guess.


Although Sony led the mirrorless parade, Canon has a great deal of influence. If they strike out on a path, others will follow.

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Jul 6, 2022 10:19:47   #
tokeefe1554 Loc: somewhere out there
 
I got a Canon T-6, Just a beginners DSLR, But that's what I've always heard.

Tim

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Jul 6, 2022 21:06:17   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Sorry but this is the usual fake news, conspiracy theory floated by all that refuse to believe these news services picked their cameras for their innovation, performance, reliability, and durability. I personally know the top folks at AP, and Gannett, having shot for them in the past and they had similar bids from all makers but chose Sony for the reasons they state in the articles in the links I posted, NOT for some special financial deal better than Canon or Nikon. LOL.

But no one at UHH EVER looks at the reality, they just fall back on their fanboy picture of the photo world and cant believe many of the World's top photographers and News Services would choose to use Sony exclusively over their beloved Nikon and Canon, or Fuji.

Be honest folks, I bet no one even opened up and read any of the articles I linked from those news services stating the actual reasons why they switched,

AP , Associated Press was the first to move exclusively to Sony in 2020, and the other news services saw how that worked out covering events around the world including the Olympics, top Pro Sports and breaking news . Even competing news services and their photojournalists talk to each other, and when the word got out how well the Sonys worked for AP, other News Services followed in rapid succession around the world.

Folks wake up to the new reality, Sony continues to be a top innovator in fullframe mirrorless COMPLETE systems, cameras, sensors, lenses.

And for the only other big news service (AFP) Agence France Press that went with Nikon Z9, we now know the truth there is a Sony image sensor in the Z9 . UHH'ers vehemently denied that possibility when I suggested that after talking to Sony Managers I know when the excellent Nikon Z9 was announced.

Now this is out " A new report from the folks over at TechInsights just revealed the maker of the imaging sensor at the heart of the Nikon Z9 flagship mirrorless camera. And that sensor is, drum roll, please… The Sony IMX609AQJ.Jun 14, 2022"

Cheers, it is all good folks, just get the facts straight and stop the fake conspiracy theories that Sony somehow paid to get these news services to switch. LOL
Sorry but this is the usual fake news, conspiracy ... (show quote)


Many years ago I had the opportunity to shoot side by side with the professionals at a few political events. Friends of mine were active politically and asked me to photograph friends of theirs who were politicians. At the time it seemed they were all shooting Nikon, and it wasn't unusual for 'competitors' to borrow lenses and other gear during an event. I got the impression that being able to share was part of the reason everybody used the same brand.

Are todays pros better equipped, or is it still important in some areas to be using the same brand as the next guy?

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Jul 6, 2022 21:31:48   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
I bought my D850 at a brick and mortar store with Nikon representatives present. I asked about the rumor that the sensor was not Nikon's design. They assured me that Nikon has a large sensor R&D group and that all of their high end cameras are of Nikon's design, but they do farm out manufacturing to a few different silicon foundries including Sony. Here's a good article on the process. Also, the Z9 sensor is unique in that it has two simultaneous readouts, one to the evf, the other to the mem card for the first true blackout free evf. This is a first in the industry.

https://www.popphoto.com/news/nikon-z9-sony-sensor/

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Jul 7, 2022 00:30:43   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Although Sony led the mirrorless parade, Canon has a great deal of influence. If they strike out on a path, others will follow.


Actually, both Olympus and Panasonic led the mirrorless parade. But Sony was the first full frame manufacturer to see the future of mirrorless.

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Jul 7, 2022 04:58:06   #
BebuLamar
 
wdross wrote:
Actually, both Olympus and Panasonic led the mirrorless parade. But Sony was the first full frame manufacturer to see the future of mirrorless.


Sony introduced the mirrorless before Olympus and Panasonic with their NEX cameras. At the time Olympus and Panasonic were still making the 4/3 cameras which were DSLR's.

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