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Jul 5, 2022 08:13:41   #
huemax Loc: High Point, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:


Cameras can be rated the same "overall value" by different " individual values" in each category of evaluation yielding the same number.

Then, "who's" opinion is yielding the values?


IT is YOU. Rent a camera that you might to own. You have to use it to see. Never buy a car without test frive.

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Jul 5, 2022 08:14:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine your photography if you were using a different camera brand.

I imagine I'd still get pictures.

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Jul 5, 2022 08:21:21   #
huemax Loc: High Point, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine your photography if you were using a different camera brand.


RENT one or more. Never buy a car without test drive?

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Jul 5, 2022 08:35:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Canon, Nikon, and Sony are in it for the long haul. Fuji - I hope so. The problem is that camera sales are way down, so there is a much smaller pie to divide among the manufacturers. It's all about money, so if profits aren't good, they will drop cameras and look for money elsewhere. They're not sentimental; they're businessmen.

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Jul 5, 2022 08:58:38   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
2022 is the 21st century.

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Jul 5, 2022 09:25:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bultaco wrote:
2022 is the 21st century.


Yes, and how will the current "big sellers" be doing in fifty years?

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Jul 5, 2022 09:27:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, and how will the current "big sellers" be doing in fifty years?

Selling cell phones?

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Jul 5, 2022 09:30:10   #
MrPhotog
 
huemax wrote:




We used to have over dozens of camera brands in last century (over 30 years ago), but today my choice is 4 or 5?

I would like to know how today's photographers favor which brand is the best. We must consider all those factors; what is capability of the equipment and system, pricing, reliability, service availability, and user friendly design.

I came up with four major names; SONY, FUJI. CANON, and NIKON.

There were OLYMPUS, PENTAX, LEICA and PANASONIC a decade ago, what happened with them, are they still with us?
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The number of brands has indeed dwindled. Camera companies typically make camera bodies and lenses.

You are also seeing the rise of companies that make only lenses, but for multiple camera systems. Interestingly, some are making new optics for very old lens mounts.

Some old names in cameras are still with us, but their prices have gone sky-high. Leica’s latest camera body (M11) is $9000, and yet it sells so quickly (and is made so slowly !) that it has been hard to find at that list price. Leica is partnering with Panasonic on their Mirrorless SLR models, so both brands are around—apparently thriving— and sharing the same lens mount, which means there will be less expensive bodies available for Leica optics.

Other old brands such as Hasselblad and Alpa are very expensive, but available. Fuji is cranking out new cameras, too. Cameras with Larger format sensors are a smaller market, geared to pros, more expensive, and not going to be big sellers— none will sell millions of cameras in a year like Sony does.

How do we factor which is best? A base set of features and how well it meets our personal photographic styles and needs. And price.

Sony’s biggest feature (in my opinion) was making a camera that accepted lenses from other manufacturers. They can have a dozen optical companies at work for them at the same time, and introduce a dozen new lens designs each year under a Sony label. Or, in some cases under another brand’s label, like Zeiss.

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Jul 5, 2022 09:31:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
Selling cell phones?


No. Apple and Samsung have a tight grip on that market - at least in the USA. Nokia is still the #1 seller, but where are they now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones

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Jul 5, 2022 09:33:35   #
dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I own Canon cameras. In the past, I owned Olympus 4/3 cameras ending with the E-5. I thought they were great and was heavily invested in their premium lenses. Then Olympus abandoned the 4/3 format for the micro 4/3's. It would have been smart to have created an E-7 and then an E-9 out of respect for their customers. Certainly the sensors were available. I didn't want to buy all new lenses. After a few years, the Olympus software became incompatible with new versions of Windows. I searched for updates and there were none. I called Olympus customer service and they were awful to me and refused to help me in any way. It would have been easy to make their newer software compatible with E-type cameras but they wanted them to be as obsolete as possible. They also refused to make adapters to use the old lenses with their M-4/3 cameras. SO, I abandoned Olympus and moved to Canon. There was no particular reason except that I have known some photographers who like Canon. I am sure I would be equally happy with Nikon of Sony. I have three Olympus bodies, seven lenses including their former flagship models sitting in a cabinet because of the terrible attitude exhibited by Olympus Customer Service. My theory is that, if they treat a long-term, heavily invested customer that way I will never trust them or want anything to do with them. I am very happy with the Canon 5D-MK IV, the R5 and all the lenses bearing the Canon brand.

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Jul 5, 2022 09:38:48   #
BebuLamar
 
huemax wrote:
RENT one or more. Never buy a car without test drive?


You don't have to rent a car to test drive. Support your local camera stores.

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Jul 5, 2022 09:43:22   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
BebuLamar wrote:
You don't have to rent a car to test drive. Support your local camera stores.


If there is one.

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Jul 5, 2022 09:46:44   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Followers think and talk about problems. Leaders think and talk about camera brands.

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Jul 5, 2022 09:49:26   #
BebuLamar
 
Architect1776 wrote:
If there is one.


In which case many people nowaday do buy a car without the test drive. It's the sign of the time. Back in the old days most people would go out to the camera store and try out several cameras before picking one. I remember back in the old days stereo dealers let me take the speakers home to try them out in my home for a week before I decide to buy them or not.
Oh well but we have the easy return policy. Back in the late 70's I don't think I can return a camera for money back. I could return it for another if it's defective. I am not sure now but at least before the pandemic there was no way to return a car for full money back. You would lose thousands of dollars if you bought a car drive it for one day and try to return it.

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Jul 5, 2022 09:51:42   #
sheldon minsky Loc: iron mountain michigan
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The ultimate measure of a person is not their mistakes nor their accomplishments, but what brand they shoot.

Please continue to enlighten the masses.

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