Post processing use...
May 23, 2022 13:07:30 #
To elaborate on a portion of your statement, "how you got from "a" to "b" is irrelevant to the person standing in front of the print."
Similarly, boasting about the camera/lens, etc. is irrelevant, as well. It's the final product/print that is important.
--Bob
Similarly, boasting about the camera/lens, etc. is irrelevant, as well. It's the final product/print that is important.
--Bob
MSW wrote:
wow- that's pretty dramatic ... gotta figure out how to do that ... the "object of the exercise" (as i see it) is not some sort of ideological purity, but the capture of the image and the statement you make in doing so ... how you got from "a" to "b" is irrelevant to the person standing in front of the print
May 23, 2022 13:20:24 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
It took me a long time on UHH to decide other people's willful ignorance is not worth any effort on my part to attempt to educate.....
It might help if you can remind yourself that such people have a tendency to voice opinions by stating them as facts. Once you correctly identify such assertions as opinions it then becomes a simple process of you stating a contrary opinion (as an opinion) and then defending it if necessary. It's then up to the other person to decide if they're going to acknowledge the truth of what you're saying. If they don't, it's their loss and you don't have to feel like you've failed in your attempt to educate them.
It's also worth remembering that hearing a contrary opinion may remind the other person indirectly that their asserted "fact" is also just an opinion. Attacking their assertion is most likely to produce a defensive reaction in the other person which they will often turn into an attack of their own.
May 23, 2022 13:25:29 #
From my D7000's, D7200 and D500 I post process 100% of my images but if I had the Z9 I would probably post process only 100%.😁
May 23, 2022 13:29:30 #
DAN Phillips wrote:
I agree with 100%!
Also agreeing ... but also keeping in mind that "You cannot cure stoopid".
That kept in mind, I try to appreciate the entertainment value of the situation.
May 23, 2022 13:38:08 #
A good photograph has the most pixels.
A good photographer has a mirrorless camera.
A great photographer masters PhotoShop.
A good photographer has a mirrorless camera.
A great photographer masters PhotoShop.
May 23, 2022 13:55:56 #
R.G. wrote:
Yep, that part I figured out years ago - one of the favorite constructs of the most famous bad boy you and I have known on UHH It might help if you can remind yourself that such people have a tendency to voice opinions by stating them as facts...
R.G. wrote:
In my opinion, willful ignorance isn't worth the energy to attempt education. I said it took me a long time to learn that, but the important thing is I've known it for a couple of years now. The rest is bygones ... It's then up to the other person to decide if they're going to acknowledge the truth of what you're saying. If they don't, it's their loss and you don't have to feel like you've failed in your attempt to educate them...
May 23, 2022 14:48:57 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Actually, I am quite busy shooting stacked close-ups of orchids. This thread came about because I was answering someone earlier and checked his profile history first.
His original post ticked me off, then his history showed way too much ignorance on what PP is about. Instead of revving his older thread, I created a new one, concerning all.
Venting if you prefer.
Funny how you are on 'grand scale' and I am into smaller things...
His original post ticked me off, then his history showed way too much ignorance on what PP is about. Instead of revving his older thread, I created a new one, concerning all.
Venting if you prefer.
Funny how you are on 'grand scale' and I am into smaller things...
I often check someones profile/history.
Boils down to "consider the source".
May 23, 2022 14:59:05 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
.....one of the favorite constructs of the most famous bad boy you and I have known on UHH
Ah yes, such fond memories.....
. PS - I know that you know, but sometimes we need reminding. Full-blown manifestations of opinionism (don't bother googling it - I just invented it) can have that effect on us.
May 24, 2022 07:11:51 #
May 24, 2022 07:34:09 #
skipwv
Loc: West Virginia
Linda From Maine wrote:
An awful lot of energy on this site goes into trying to convert the unwilling. Why? There should be enough folks here to be able to gather into like-minded groups in order to learn, enjoy, admire, and be inspired by what they like most about photography.
Well said, and to the point!
May 24, 2022 07:38:39 #
Rongnongno wrote:
I am getting a bit tired of folks stating that &qu... (show quote)
The responses for the first two pages (so far) to this thread give me hope for UHH.
I have and hope to continue learning from you fine folks who do not confuse their opinions with facts.
You same folks patiently share your hard-earned knowledge, instruct the uninitiated, and provide examples and references to make your points.
It is so good to see some of my most admired UHH contributors voice their observations regarding this issue.
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends
Bravo Zulu
PS: No worries, because the folks that cause your concern will not recognise that they are the targets of this discussion.
May 24, 2022 08:15:22 #
Retina
Loc: Near Charleston,SC
Rongnongno wrote:
I am getting a bit tired of folks stating that &qu... (show quote)
People spend time (and money) on what they want to get better at, whether they love the process or maybe have certain goals. SOOC meets the needs of those with more modest expectations. There is nothing wrong with that. Others are not happy with SOOC but accept the compromises because they don't have the time for PP. I bet there are some here who work unrelated day jobs and can't wait to practice post when they retire. I doubt there are many who tried, gave up, and rationalize away post as necessary only for those who lack advanced SOOC skills. To any experts here get satisfaction from helping others see the advantages of making the most of what a sensor can do, comparisons between a best-effort SOOC vs a good post version of the same exposure help to illustrate the differences.
May 24, 2022 08:18:19 #
When I was a kid, I never processed. But then, I grew up. 
Processing is a big part of the enjoyment of photography.
Processing is a big part of the enjoyment of photography.May 24, 2022 08:19:19 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Amen !!!! Example One image before ACR second in progress Just out of ACR using My camera Profile .Image still needs a ton of work as it part of a panorama to be stitched There is a lot of dust on sensor in the sky that needs to be edited out .I am getting a bit tired of folks stating that &qu... (show quote)
May 24, 2022 08:24:59 #
jerryc41 wrote:
When I was a kid, I never processed. But then, I grew up. Processing is a big part of the enjoyment of photography.
Processing is a big part of the enjoyment of photography.
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