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Jan 8, 2022 11:02:49   #
Bison Bud
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Wow! Pretty amazing that you are calling for a death sentence for misdemeanor crimes.... Just amazing. Should we have used lethal force against those burning down city blocks over the summer as well? Seems to me that arson is a much more serious crime than trespass.


Was it really just misdemeanor trespass or was it an "I**********n" that attempted to stop the due process of our government and possibly harm and/or hold hostage our elected officials. Even if it was just criminal trespass, shouldn't the C*****l P****e have made more of an effort to keep them out? I may be mistaken, but I believe that there have been felony charges made in the aftermath of this event and probably more to come.

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Jan 8, 2022 11:06:19   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Bison Bud wrote:
I went ahead and just posted this in the Attic as I don't think it stands much of a chance staying up even here! However, since the anniversary of the Capital I**********n is now a hot news item once again, there's a question I think needs to be answered and it seems to be completely avoided so far. Anyway, why didn't the C*****l P****e use force to stop the invasion once the protestors breeched the Capitol building itself? Surely they have standing orders to protect against any invasion and to use force if needed to do so! Instead, it appears that they generally retreated and let the protesters run rampant inside the Capitol building. Yes this might have increased the death and injury toll, but I personally think that they could have stopped the whole thing in it's tracks if they had just warned the crowd that they would use lethal force if they breeched the building and fired a couple warning shots when and if they tried to. I guess we will never really know if it could have been stopped without actually firing on the crowd, but harsh reality requires harsh reactions and at least to me, it appears that the C*****l P****e were either told to stand down or simply did not do their sworn jobs to protect at all costs and this made the entire situation escalate out of control. Frankly, if told to stand down, then whomever gave that order has some serious questions to answer and it will probably never even come up in any sort of investigation whatsoever. Frankly, these invaders were criminals with violent intentions, yet they were treated with kid gloves rather than dealt with on equal terms. I find that to be rather puzzling to say the least, any comments?
I went ahead and just posted this in the Attic as ... (show quote)

While the C*****l P****e were armed, they were not well armed.

https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_capitol-police-were-overrun-left-naked-against-r****rs/6200572.html

From the pictures I could find, it's not apparent that the C*****l P****e were carrying much extra ammunition on them.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AOaemvLhRhe3JlPvAKXmn0qK9hfVqJW_HQ:1641657001950&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=january+6+2021+photos&client=tablet-android-samsung-nf-rev1&fir=cb73sX-8oW5Z3M%252CQJjOGuupfGwYRM%252C_%253BDXpWHyqi9dOFFM%252CqtVMQSClojFlAM%252C_%253BzH4ad5jJvE_zjM%252CuXBBZeb5XlNBvM%252C_%253B85ZiyiayWUvvpM%252CCABeu3dAoiaC3M%252C_%253Bj41_HOeU-wntDM%252CUNaXohi7ShCU3M%252C_%253BlxiVVltnI457pM%252CxQhtyCHE0jBaNM%252C_%253By4AM37s6sLfN0M%252CWj8Haf_didQqXM%252C_%253BQWpXCI54FjGPKM%252CBm3o4zT4Ln_1CM%252C_%253BUuUQIa6vHezwhM%252C99RU6dyW8tiMcM%252C_%253BVX6yyeQDKOAqVM%252C_wBYdhA6p7wR8M%252C_%253Bq7-wmKZrOjaGeM%252C8lGfcFSEd0NP5M%252C_%253BmuPMppNm1L4QnM%252CtoVvl74HfCIaNM%252C_%253BT8Mr3U61xBrvsM%252CBm3o4zT4Ln_1CM%252C_%253BJtS51YfFAT4Y-M%252C2rTJtWuc45eaCM%252C_%253Btm2Xxld8eXUOoM%252CPOVuVWboJSIQeM%252C_%253BSgHD_gGzPD-1cM%252Ci0piDIWHA7ZudM%252C_%253B_FiYNJlKccmN7M%252C_xM2Vuk8DGAtGM%252C_%253BlRDeG4qCJGzk5M%252C62dpr_CkgeLyjM%252C_%253BKmPVPgPUpC1ZpM%252C9T2HlNX0Dqyo8M%252C_%253BB1vsWonY5auGcM%252CBm3o4zT4Ln_1CM%252C_%253BXShX97NgRCD8nM%252CVd1hjHAhrDbpRM%252C_%253BPlMtpjtNjpunIM%252CMISgDfato2DERM%252C_%253BVvzvQ59pnaG6dM%252Cvylr947LkSTKMM%252C_%253Bowggp_ISA7NzDM%252C62dpr_CkgeLyjM%252C_%253BCYabfTOjENuwgM%252CGEVaUxhW_sWlhM%252C_%253By4M0dOqjtA6gWM%252CVd1hjHAhrDbpRM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kSrvz3_9BhNUsmnZzCFS1vFDxSzyg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGt8bzwKL1AhVLkYkEHTAqDX4Q7Al6BAgIEA0&biw=1205&bih=753&dpr=2.13

It's interesting to read the reports of weapons brought to the US Capitol Building on J****** 6, 2021.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/stun-guns-stinger-whips-crossbow-what-police-found-capitol-protesters-n1254127

https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/01/11/guns-brass-knuckles-homemade-napalm-read-some-of-the-documents-from-arrests-after-the-capitol-r**t/

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Jan 8, 2022 12:44:55   #
Watash
 
Bison Bud wrote:
I went ahead and just posted this in the Attic as I don't think it stands much of a chance staying up even here! However, since the anniversary of the Capital I**********n is now a hot news item once again, there's a question I think needs to be answered and it seems to be completely avoided so far. Anyway, why didn't the C*****l P****e use force to stop the invasion once the protestors breeched the Capitol building itself? Surely they have standing orders to protect against any invasion and to use force if needed to do so! Instead, it appears that they generally retreated and let the protesters run rampant inside the Capitol building. Yes this might have increased the death and injury toll, but I personally think that they could have stopped the whole thing in it's tracks if they had just warned the crowd that they would use lethal force if they breeched the building and fired a couple warning shots when and if they tried to. I guess we will never really know if it could have been stopped without actually firing on the crowd, but harsh reality requires harsh reactions and at least to me, it appears that the C*****l P****e were either told to stand down or simply did not do their sworn jobs to protect at all costs and this made the entire situation escalate out of control. Frankly, if told to stand down, then whomever gave that order has some serious questions to answer and it will probably never even come up in any sort of investigation whatsoever. Frankly, these invaders were criminals with violent intentions, yet they were treated with kid gloves rather than dealt with on equal terms. I find that to be rather puzzling to say the least, any comments?
I went ahead and just posted this in the Attic as ... (show quote)


No i**********n happened. Biden said so. It said that to have an i**********n, you would need nukes and F-15's.
None of those were there. CNN reporter yelled out they had guns when they did not and got a vet k**led.

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Jan 8, 2022 15:08:07   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bob Smith wrote:
Possibly they realised that some of the mob were armed and they would have faced a hail of bullets back.


Bulls**t!!!!! No guns were fired AT the C*****l P****e officers that entire day. Having served as a LEO getting fired upon is part of the job. Are you really telling us the officers chickened out and let the mob in knowing they could get k**led? Didn't the police officers have guns? Didn't they have loaded guns? Could they not have fired back? Is this really the best you can do, just plain BS?

Dennis

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Jan 8, 2022 17:13:55   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
It is, by law. the responsibility of the speaker of the House to call the C*****l P****e amd/or the National Guard to protect the capital.. Trump recommended calling up the National Guard several days before the r**t. Just ONE GUESS who refused. PELOSI. So why is she not guilty of i**********n

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Jan 8, 2022 17:16:33   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Wow! Pretty amazing that you are calling for a death sentence for misdemeanor crimes.... Just amazing. Should we have used lethal force against those burning down city blocks over the summer as well? Seems to me that arson is a much more serious crime than trespass.


Some persons (me included) have thought that snipers could have quickly stopped the r**ting/l**ting at the Capital AS WELL as in other cities.

Start dropping the Bastids, and I would bet the r**ts would disperse!

But an even better alternative could be an Airport Foam-dispensing fire truck. Hose them down and put out the fires.

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Jan 8, 2022 18:03:58   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
boberic wrote:
It is, by law. the responsibility of the speaker of the House to call the C*****l P****e amd/or the National Guard to protect the capital.. Trump recommended calling up the National Guard several days before the r**t. Just ONE GUESS who refused. PELOSI. So why is she not guilty of i**********n

What specific law are you alluding to? Link please.


Please explain, based on this link, exactly how Speaker Pelosi was directly responsible for calling the C*****l P****e or the National Guard to protect the US Capitol Building.

https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight


I don't see anywhere in these articles either where the Speaker of the House is responsible for the US Capitol Security.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/12/why-the-dc-national-guards-role-was-limited-during-us-capitol-r**t/

https://wamu.org/story/21/01/11/dc-national-guard-deployment-capitol-delay/

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Jan 8, 2022 18:27:41   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
wilpharm wrote:
I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY OF THE mob being armed with guns??? where did you get that info??


Nor I. Never saw any guns in photos or vid clips of the event either. The people who were armed must have left the photo ops to go and terrorize AOC, although I think that story was either an outright lie or the rantings of a demented woman craving attention.

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Jan 8, 2022 18:55:46   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Wyantry wrote:
Some persons (me included) have thought that snipers could have quickly stopped the r**ting/l**ting at the Capital AS WELL as in other cities.

Start dropping the Bastids, and I would bet the r**ts would disperse!

But an even better alternative could be an Airport Foam-dispensing fire truck. Hose them down and put out the fires.


The fire-truck concept could be used in several cities to flush the human garbage and waste from the streets.

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Jan 8, 2022 19:41:53   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Wyantry wrote:
... But an even better alternative could be an Airport Foam-dispensing fire truck. Hose them down and put out the fires.

Do you really want to be spreading all of that cancer causing foam to unnecessarily contaminate wh**ever soil, and watershed areas the foam could leak into?

https://www.usfa.fema.gov/blog/cb-021120.html

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Jan 8, 2022 20:08:44   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Bob Smith wrote:
Look at the videos


Please link your videos, the only weapons carried that day were f**gs and bear spray, there were incidents where fire extinguishers were taken and used but there were no guns, and the r****rs with the exception of a very few did not come armed in any fashion, unlike the A****a r**ts were Molotov cocktails, frozen water bottles and bricks were hurled at the cops and baseball bats were carried by the r****rs, and there were guns present in the A****a r**ts as well. 1000's if cops injured during the summer r**ts and dozens of people k**led.

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Jan 8, 2022 20:17:24   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Wyantry wrote:
Some persons (me included) have thought that snipers could have quickly stopped the r**ting/l**ting at the Capital AS WELL as in other cities.

Start dropping the Bastids, and I would bet the r**ts would disperse!

But an even better alternative could be an Airport Foam-dispensing fire truck. Hose them down and put out the fires.


Pretty sick, almost as sick as those bastards in DC that represent us.

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Jan 8, 2022 20:20:08   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Bison Bud wrote:
Was it really just misdemeanor trespass or was it an "I**********n" that attempted to stop the due process of our government and possibly harm and/or hold hostage our elected officials. Even if it was just criminal trespass, shouldn't the C*****l P****e have made more of an effort to keep them out? I may be mistaken, but I believe that there have been felony charges made in the aftermath of this event and probably more to come.


Yes, there have been a handful of felony charges but the vast majority of charges were misdemeanors.

It was a freakin r**t, yes they tried to interrupt the proceedings, just like all r**ts try to disrupt something be it our daily lives, commerce, or city government, r**ts are disruptive otherwise they wouldn't be r**ts. Duh!

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Jan 8, 2022 20:25:13   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Not all detergent-foams are cancer-causing agents! You should know that.

They could just as easily use a few gallons of DAWN Dishwashing liquid. Foams-like-heck!

Or they manufacture MANY non-toxic high-foaming surfactants:
https://www.google.com/search?q=high+foaming+non-toxic+surfactants

There are a lot that are cosmetic-safe, likewise many that are even certified Organic.

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Jan 8, 2022 20:48:50   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Pretty sick, almost as sick as those bastards in DC that represent us.


Yes. Almost as ‘sick’ as the police and fire departments not quelling the r**ting, arson, theft, breaking-and-entering, damage, and personal-injuries at the direction of democratic mayors and politicians.

I recall a neighborhood near one of the r**ting left-coast cities (LA?) several years ago where the asian-community decided to overtly display a willingness to arm-and-defend their homes and businesses—no r****rs showed up for some reason! Hmmmmm. Surprise, surprise!

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