Bison Bud

First off let me state that I do not wish to offend any of the L***Q folks out there and have never felt that they should be treated differently due to their personal choices. My stepson is gay and I've accepted him and his partner as a members of our/my family since day one and it's never been an issue whatsoever. All in all, another person's sexual choices and practices are none of my business and I make no critical judgements due to them. However, I am suffering from some confusion over the large number of g****r indentities we now need to be familiar with and understand going forward. I guess this is progress, but I don't think I'll ever understand why all this needs to be so mainstream. As an example, it is now pretty much impossible to watch a recently made TV program or even a commercial without seeing some form of L***Q behavior and at least for me this can sometimes be painful to watch. I can accept that it goes on and I'm glad that these folks are finding acceptance, but I don't need to see this kind of activity demonstrated repeatedly! Geese, growing up with TV, they showed married couples sleeping in separate beds and they seldom even kissed to avoid controversy, but now anything goes and it seems to escalate by the day. Can't we find some middle ground somewhere?

Anyway, From my personal research it appears that the biology (X & Y C********es) determine the actual sex of an individual, but g****r is generally considered to be how the individual sees themselves and how they choose to present themselves. This too I can accept, but is it really a good thing for something so intimate and personal to be portrayed so openly. At least to some degree, I think a more subdued portrayal, especially in the media, would serve everyone better in the long run. At least in my opinion, the Military's approach of "Don't ask, don't tell" is a good start. Maybe it should be modified at bit to something like "Don't ask, don't tell, and keep it a private matter whenever possible" would be a good slogan going forward.

Any comments? Please don't respond here if you can't keep it respectable. If not this will be a very short running thread! Anyway, think about it and respond if you have sensible comments, I'd like to hear them. Thanks and good shooting to all.

BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD

I agree with all that you have said.

Ollieboy

IMO all female athletes who have any t*********r athletes that compete with them resign until the regulators get some common sense. If all the females resign, then there is no competition for the t*********rs to dominate. Maybe there should be a separate league for them. I'm sorry that legitimate athletes would be taking the hit temporarily though. This has nothing to do with them being t*********r. How unfair is it the women who train for years to have their training to be considered wasted time.

edmixon Loc: Orange County CA

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edmixon Loc: Orange County CA

Yes! I just saw this morning the “t***s” was bragging how easy it was. He, she, said “ I was just cruising”

That really isn’t competitive!!

kpsk_sony

Open mouth and stuff foot firmly in. -- I would rather not comment on this but here goes anyway. Too many people in the L**T and the Black community have been suppressed, repressed, put down and "bleeped" over, for so long that even a little freedom is much too tempting to be held back in these days. I don't usually find these ads and situations a big problem, except that they are now more noticeable. I did however cringe recently, seeing a TV ad for a hotel chain showing two trim young men going into a guest room with a young boy in the arms of one of them. Someone's gonna notice and send an hysterically vituperative communication to said corporation. The result will probably cancel the ad and inspire an apology from said corporation for offending Middle America's uptight sensibilities.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

You don't have to be "Middle America" uptight to be concerned for a young boy being carried into a hotel room by a couple of gay men!

johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle

Adopted son of the two gentlemen? That would be my first interpretation of the events.


Believe it or not, not all (or the majority) gay men are pedos...in fact, I'm sure the two are not mutually inclusive to each other.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

XY C********es determine g****r, simple as that. Full stop!
If you aren't sure drop your pants and have a look. Whether you are happy with what you see or not is another matter all together.

johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle

I feel everyone has the right to believe and feel the way they want. Does that mean that I have follow along and learn the g****r library? Not at all. My daughter is friends with a young man who identifies as a woman, and we have talked about this at length. He is simply happy at the fact that I respect his feelings even though I don't necessarily agree with them. Even though I do not recognize that a man can become a "full" woman or the other way around, I do recognize legal name changes, because a name is only a simple string of characters on paper.

As far as seeing it on TV. It doesn't offend me in the least bit, but I do feel like the writers of newer television (streaming/broadcast) are under pressure to conform to norms in society, and like it or not, society has changed as it has since the beginning of time. I do however think that most of the time these situations are not organically written into scripts and it seems a little strained on the story line. I have seen it work in some story lines and fail miserably in others.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

You could very well be right, Tony. But I would still wonder if there was one bed or two in the hotel room! Maybe it's just my Middle America (not) sensibilities showing through.

johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle

Yeah, I totally understand your view point. And not everyone interprets things the same way, which is why we are such an amazing species of animal on this third rock from the sun

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Leave it to Hollywood to take anything and EVERYTHING to the extreme...

There are more fully automatic weapons in any given TV cop show episode than were seen by a former property clerk who served there for TWENTY YEARS before retiring. He reported that among the roughly 40,000 firearms he'd personally recorded, he had seen exactly TWO fully automatic weapons brought in during his entire career. In fact, he stated in those twenty years he'd actually seen more explosive devices such as bazookas and RPGs (a total of 3). Of course, there are other clerks at LAPD who may have seen a higher incidence of fully automatic weapons.... But there are also dozens of cop shows comprising many thousands of episodes.

Meanwhile, on the big screen.... In just THREE movies title character John Wick (Keanu Reeves) has "k**led" more people than long time mass murderers "Jason Voorhees" in twelve Friday the 13th installments and "Michael Myers" in twelve Halloween movies.

The latest Halloween K**ls released in October set a new record among the slasher films, where 30 people die, though only 25 of them are confirmed to be at the hands of Michael Myers. But that's NOTHING compared to John Wick! Heck he did triple that with 77 k**ls in his first movie, really outdid himself in the 2nd installment with 128, but then only managed 94 in the most recent John Wick: Parabellum. That's 299 "k**ls" by Wick in three films. For comparison, across the TWENTY FOUR slasher movies the other guys have only managed 297. Between the two mass murderers Michael is in the lead with 157, while Jason has "only" managed 140 murders.

I suppose the moral of this story, Hollywood's message to us, is: "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight!"

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Last I knew, g****r was physical, not mental.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

With C***d we've been told to FOLLOW THE SCIENCE! (Not that they actually do).

When it comes to g****r, we're told FORGET SCIENCE.