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Dec 6, 2021 09:34:34   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
sodapop wrote:
I hand Topaz sharpen and love it. How much better is Topaz Denoise AI than the noise reducing qualities on Sharpen?


They just had sharpen, Denise, and gigapixle on sale for like $88, and I bought it. I don't know if it is still on sale or not.

The programs are specialty programs. Denoise takes out noise, and has some of the code to sharpen a little. Same for sharpen. It's purpose is to sharpen, and has some of the code to remove noise.

If your problem is noise, use denoise. If it is sharpness, use sharpen. I don't believe either one will help with pixelation. That is where gigapixle might help. Download the trial and see.

All three are great programs.

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Dec 6, 2021 09:49:06   #
gwilliams6
 
Love Topaz Denoise AI, a real staple for wildlife and higher-megapixel camera users to deal with noise. DXO Prime is also a good one. There is sharpening option within Topaz Denoise AI. Here a Sony A1, 50mp sensor image shot (full frame and a tight crop from the same image) made at ISO 1600, that was cleaned up nicely in Topaz Denoise AI without losing any detail or resolution. Sony A1, Sony 200-600mm lens, ISO 1600, 509 mm, f6.3, 1/2000 second. A Great White Egret bends it neck to reach and clean its feathers on the Caribbean island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin in late September.

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Dec 6, 2021 10:20:23   #
d3200prime
 
Ednsb wrote:
I did use both but as discussed yesterday it’s a crap shoot when they put out new versions, they are not creating apple silicon native versions. And now there are better solutions especially On1 NoNoise. Get a trial of it and see


I second the motion on ON1 NoNoise and it's less expensive than Topaz. Try it you'll like it.

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Dec 6, 2021 10:33:35   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
Denoise does a great job, but runs VERY slowly on my PC.

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Dec 6, 2021 10:51:18   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
sodapop wrote:
I hand Topaz sharpen and love it. How much better is Topaz Denoise AI than the noise reducing qualities on Sharpen?


I use DeNoise AI very often. I used the Clear setting, which takes care of noise and sharpens.

I have discount codes for all the Topaz products.
PM me if interested.

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Dec 6, 2021 10:53:28   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
ronichas wrote:
I use DeNoise AI very often. I used the Clear setting, which takes care of noise and sharpens.

I have discount codes for all the Topaz products.
PM me if interested.


Thank you so much. I already got it!

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Dec 6, 2021 10:57:31   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
camerapapi wrote:
I already discussed in a previous post how I lost Topaz Denoise AI when I tried to update. The new update messed everything and I ended up loosing the AI version.
I am still using Denoise version 6.


Return to https://topazlabs.com/downloads/
Then go to the top of the page to "Purchased Products" click on
"Account" then "Purchased Products". This will bring up the "Welcome Back/Log-In" page.
From there you can "Log - In" and re-download anything current which you have previously purchased.
Best Wishes and . . .
Smile,
JimmyT Sends


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Dec 6, 2021 11:47:36   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
sodapop wrote:
I hand Topaz sharpen and love it. How much better is Topaz Denoise AI than the noise reducing qualities on Sharpen?


SodaPop:
I use the "DeNoise AI" first as recommended by Topaz.
DeNoise AI is so good now (DeNoise AI also effectively sharpens) that I rarely need to use "Topaz Sharpen AI" unless there are Real Extreme Sharpening problems.

If you go through the Topaz Sharpen AI tutorial you will see that Sharpen AI also has added a "Selectively (using a mask) Sharpen Your Image" located on a tiny icon at the Bottom Right of the page just to the left of the "Cancel" and tiny "Trash Can".

For your convenience, I use the following Topaz Recommended Workflow.
Topaz workflow: https://topazlabs.com/the-ultimate-workflow-for-topaz-labs-ai-software/?utm_source=Topaz+Updates&utm_campaign=8c480bdca3-
Please note that Topaz clearly states, "If Needed".

For those of you that may crop very aggressively, Topaz Gigapixel AI (Last in the workflow) may save a small file, or provide many variations/views/subject placement in the same scene, it has for me.

Sometimes it is good to use after cropping a distant subject without purchasing/renting high-dollar glass.
Your Experience May Vary, but I find that this workflow using these products works for me.
In fact, Topaz Products make me . . .
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

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Dec 6, 2021 12:08:30   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
IMHO, AI versions of Topaz products are much better than the non AI versons.

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Dec 6, 2021 12:41:43   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
DaveJ wrote:
I use both Topaz DeNoise and Sharpen. I use DeNoise much more than Sharpen. They have a free 30 day trial on products. Try it on your own photos, it will be easy since you already have one product. That said, for a noisy photo, it is much better than Sharpen.



I own the full Topaz suite of products and probably use DeNoise AI 90% of the time. I personally think Topaz should combine Sharpen and DeNoise into one ultra product.

bwa

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Dec 6, 2021 13:20:28   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
frankraney wrote:
They just had sharpen, Denise, and gigapixle on sale for like $88, and I bought it. I don't know if it is still on sale or not.

The programs are specialty programs. Denoise takes out noise, and has some of the code to sharpen a little. Same for sharpen. It's purpose is to sharpen, and has some of the code to remove noise.

If your problem is noise, use denoise. If it is sharpness, use sharpen. I don't believe either one will help with pixelation. That is where gigapixle might help. Download the trial and see.

All three are great programs.
They just had sharpen, Denise, and gigapixle on sa... (show quote)


How about taking great photographs to begin with and saving some money!

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Dec 6, 2021 13:52:25   #
RightOnPhotography Loc: Quebec,QC
 
It's better to sharpen after denoising in Denoise, than denoise after sharpening in Sharpen. Better results if the noisy image needs sharpening.

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Dec 6, 2021 15:14:22   #
Jsykes
 
C. Loren wrote:
I do use both do denoise and sharpen. When it comes to taking the noise out of a photograph with the denoise is demonstrably better than sharpen. It has helped me on multiple occasions revive a good photograph with the problem of too much noise.


I would be interested to understand if there is a reason why both should not always be used; with the caveat that Denoise is used first.

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Dec 6, 2021 15:22:21   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
I’ve found that with a lot of noise Sharpen sometimes ends up sharpening the noise. Depending on the raw file I might choose one or the other but will sometimes run it through Denoise and then Sharpen.

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Dec 6, 2021 15:23:50   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
RightOnPhotography wrote:
It's better to sharpen after denoising in Denoise, than denoise after sharpening in Sharpen. Better results if the noisy image needs sharpening.


Yes, always Denoise first. Once you Sharpen the noise, Denoise might not recognize it as noise.

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