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Sep 11, 2021 07:01:36   #
11bravo
 
profbowman wrote:

And by the way, the image of a directory posted by 11bravo does not show the insides of a system image. It only shows the file structure for the folder Public Pictures. The System Image includes such files as System, Windows, etc.
Drive I IS the insides of a Macrium image file. I had just stepped down to a common subfolder rather than highest level to show it can be done, along with a search query (upper right). The drive icons are tiny, but careful examination will show drive I has a different drive icon than the others as it is a mounted volume.

And to mount, it's as simple as double clicking on the image file; Macrium handles all the icky stuff as to mounting. MY experience, most users DO understand a "double click". Now building a bootable USB drive with a recovery environment might be a different matter, but Macrium walks you through that too (and nags/reminds you to do it).

Does the internal windows image creation capability allow differential backups as the FREE Macrium Reflect does as well as verifying the image is readable (verify after creation) along with being able to add a comment to the image? And does it clone drives? Myself, I was taught to clone a failing drive and use the clone to attempt repairs to eliminate as much stress as possible to the failing drive.

But the tools you use are up to you (ah, that Norton Ghost in DOS... a lifesaver for sure...)

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Sep 11, 2021 09:43:34   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Jeez all you people are getting deep in the weeds on cloning drives when it has nothing to do with helping the OP solve his problem.


Maybe a little too deep into particulars, but the concept is, "Don't let this happen again. Have a backup plan in place." Nothing wrong with saying that and making a suggestion or two.

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Sep 11, 2021 11:07:35   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
therwol wrote:
Maybe a little too deep into particulars, but the concept is, "Don't let this happen again. Have a backup plan in place." Nothing wrong with saying that and making a suggestion or two.


Agreed. One positive (if there is one) from making mistakes is to learn how to keep from doing it again.

Regarding Profbowman’s comment(s), you are missing the point that 11bravo and others are making about Macrium (which I use also). You are not restoring the clone inside a virtual machine with the original OS running - there would be no reason to do so if the original OS would run. You simply clone the OS (or the entire disk) to another disk, and then if the original OS becomes corrupted or inoperable, you simply boot from the clone - couldn’t be simpler. For example, when I replaced my C: drive with a larger SSD, I simply kept the older smaller SSD (which was large enough for the OS and associated files) and renamed the drive letter. Now if the OS becomes corrupted, I simply change the boot drive - couldn’t be simpler.

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Sep 11, 2021 13:56:01   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
TriX wrote:
Agreed. You simply clone the OS (or the entire disk) to another disk, and then if the original OS becomes corrupted or inoperable, you simply boot from the clone - couldn’t be simpler. For example, when I replaced my C: drive with a larger SSD, I simply kept the older smaller SSD (which was large enough for the OS and associated files) and renamed the drive letter. Now if the OS becomes corrupted, I simply change the boot drive - couldn’t be simpler.


I've done this many times when I've cloned a smaller disk to a larger one as a replacement, and most of the time I've kept the smaller one intact.

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Sep 11, 2021 21:10:32   #
Dave Flash Loc: South Jersey
 
I received a lot of help from everyone. I’m in the process of reinstalling light room 6.0 and really need light room 6.14 to work with my files. Is there anyone know how I can find a copy of light room 6.14?

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Sep 11, 2021 21:12:43   #
Dave Flash Loc: South Jersey
 
I’m in the process of reinstalling my programs. My data seems to be secure. I’m trying to install light room 6.0 but really need light room 6.14 to work with my files. Any help to locate a copy of 6.14? Thank you all in advance for all of your help.

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Sep 11, 2021 21:25:36   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Dave Flash wrote:
I’m in the process of reinstalling my programs. My data seems to be secure. I’m trying to install light room 6.0 but really need light room 6.14 to work with my files. Any help to locate a copy of 6.14? Thank you all in advance for all of your help.


There’s a link to the Windows installation file on this site, but I haven’t tried to install it. Any chance you have the install file in your (hopefully backed up) download folder?
https://prodesigntools.com/adobe-cc-2015-updates-links-windows.html#lightroom

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Sep 11, 2021 22:48:54   #
11bravo
 
TriX wrote:
Agreed. One positive (if there is one) from making mistakes is to learn how to keep from doing it again.

Regarding Profbowman’s comment(s), you are missing the point that 11bravo and others are making about Macrium (which I use also). You are not restoring the clone inside a virtual machine with the original OS running - there would be no reason to do so if the original OS would run. You simply clone the OS (or the entire disk) to another disk, and then if the original OS becomes corrupted or inoperable, you simply boot from the clone - couldn’t be simpler. For example, when I replaced my C: drive with a larger SSD, I simply kept the older smaller SSD (which was large enough for the OS and associated files) and renamed the drive letter. Now if the OS becomes corrupted, I simply change the boot drive - couldn’t be simpler.
Agreed. One positive (if there is one) from making... (show quote)
Ah, that's a good idea which I'll have to remember. Unfortunately, it seems I never have any spare mobo sata slots nor mobo extension slots available for a "standby" OS drive. HOWEVER, I do keep my replaced OS drives, and straightforward to put in an external usb dock and boot from there. Thanks for the idea.

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Sep 11, 2021 22:58:26   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
11bravo wrote:
Ah, that's a good idea which I'll have to remember. Unfortunately, it seems I never have any spare mobo sata slots nor mobo extension slots available for a "standby" OS drive. HOWEVER, I do keep my replaced OS drives, and straightforward to put in an external usb dock and boot from there. Thanks for the idea.


As a matter of fact, Macrium (free version) asks me on boot up which drive I want to boot from. Reverting to the clone is as simple as choosing the other drive. If I do nothing, it boots from the new drive. Of course the older OS drive doesn’t have the latest changes I’ve made or the latest Windows updates, but at the same time, if the new drive is compromised or corrupted or encrypted by ransomware, it is unaffected. That’s the downside of real-time mirroring - anything that kills the Primary drive kills the mirror as well.

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Sep 12, 2021 00:48:00   #
11bravo
 
TriX wrote:
As a matter of fact, Macrium (free version) asks me on boot up which drive I want to boot from. Reverting to the clone is as simple as choosing the other drive. If I do nothing, it boots from the new drive. Of course the older OS drive doesn’t have the latest changes I’ve made or the latest Windows updates, but at the same time, if the new drive is compromised or corrupted or encrypted by ransomware, it is unaffected. That’s the downside of real-time mirroring - anything that kills the Primary drive kills the mirror as well.
As a matter of fact, Macrium (free version) asks m... (show quote)
I'm a bit confused. How is Macrium controlling the boot process? Isn't that windows? How did you get Macrium to be the boot loader?

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Sep 12, 2021 10:20:45   #
Dave Flash Loc: South Jersey
 
TriX the link does work. Thanks for your advice. Adobe’s only solution was to upgrade to cloud based software.
I am back in business.

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Sep 12, 2021 11:33:26   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
11bravo wrote:
I'm a bit confused. How is Macrium controlling the boot process? Isn't that windows? How did you get Macrium to be the boot loader?


Honestly, I don’t know if it’s a batch file that loads before Windows or Windows begins to load and then the Macrium utility executes before it commences. It would be interesting to pull the C drive and see if the Macrium script appears or whether it goes directly to the 2nd copy of Windows.

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Sep 12, 2021 12:28:38   #
profbowman Loc: Harrisonburg, VA, USA
 
TriX wrote:
Honestly, I don’t know if it’s a batch file that loads before Windows or Windows begins to load and then the Macrium utility executes before it commences. It would be interesting to pull the C drive and see if the Macrium script appears or whether it goes directly to the 2nd copy of Windows.


If one has a bootable file, it will need to show up when the BIOS starts and somehow force the computer to go directly to it. Normally there is an order given in the BIOS on which drives it checks first, second and so on for a bootable file. --Richard

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Sep 12, 2021 13:13:32   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
profbowman wrote:
If one has a bootable file, it will need to show up when the BIOS starts and somehow force the computer to go directly to it. Normally there is an order given in the BIOS on which drives it checks first, second and so on for a bootable file. --Richard


My guess is Macrium creates a boot loader file and renames the Windows boot loader so that BIOS/OS loads the Macrium file first when it looks on the boot drive for the Windows boot loader, but just a guess.

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Sep 13, 2021 16:13:07   #
Joexx
 
Dave Flash wrote:
A recent startup of my windows 10 computer completely shutdown. Windows offered an attempt to repair itself but to no avail.
A windows boot disk was created to reboot windows and a clean version was installed. My data was spared, however all of the programs, specifically Lightroom 6, PS4, PS Elements now reside in a file named windows.old. Does anyone have a recommended procedure to recover my Lightroom organization or do I have to start all over?
A newbie to the forum so please be kind.


You do not say what you mean by "my Lightroom organization". If you mean you need to reinstall Lightroom 6, but do not have the source, you probably cannot do that. But, if you mean you want to recover your old catalog or your original Lightroom settings or items like custom presets etc, than you can probably find them under Windows.old and look for \AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom\Develop Presets. Or something like that (do a google search for LR presets). Move the found files to your current location for your installed LR on the newly created Windows C:\.

Again, I am not really sure what you mean by "my Lightroom organization". If you are more specific, I mighe be able to help. Do not wait too long to recover your data though. I think Windows may delete the Windows.old directory after a specific amount of time (not sure).

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