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Sep 13, 2021 19:15:30   #
Dave Flash Loc: South Jersey
 
Joexx
Thank you for your advice. I have been able to find my Lightroom cat and it is now displaying as it should.
By lr organization what I meant was the tree that displays the files input and holds the history of the adjustments.

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Sep 14, 2021 14:37:10   #
Dave Flash Loc: South Jersey
 
Joexx,
Thanks for your help. I was fortunate to get my LR6.14 up and working and also recovered my catalog. The organization I was writing about was the LR file structure which is all good now that I located my catalog.
I do have one other issue is when sending NEF files form LR to PS elements 19 the files struggle to open. Some times they do and other time they don’t open to edit. No problem at all with JPEG files, they need are accepted in PSE well. PSE also accepts NEF files from Nikon editing software without a problem. I checked with Adobe but they couldn’t fix it.
Any suggestions? Anyone??
Thanks very much.

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Sep 14, 2021 16:27:06   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
11bravo wrote:
My condolences, just take this as a lesson learned (and I've learned plenty due to negative incentives).

For your reference, if a computer is POWERED off before a shutdown completes, disk corruption can occur (been there, done that). A boot disk will allow access to other recovery tools before a nuclear clean install.

1. I recently found out that windows automatically creates restore points when it updates or when other criteria are met. It recently restored my notebook that I "fingered" somehow and while windows would boot, it said it didn't have my profile so my personalizations (windows and programs) were gone. Jumping back to a restore point solved the problem rather quickly rather than a restore from backup (though I will say, from practice, I have LIMITED faith in restore points).

2. For the future (and perhaps the past), get a free copy of Macrium Reflect and create an image of your drive on another drive (external fine). Now the working windows is saved. Then see if you can go back to the corrupted version (undo the fix), and try restore points. However, if you did a clean install, the corrupted version might be gone. Hopefully you have your installation media and serial numbers available for the "old" programs. No disrespect, but a "clean install" is the solution of last resort.

Once you have an image, with periodic updates (Macrium does that), when (not if) a problem occurs, it's straightforward to reinstall the old image and everything is as it was, minus the changes since the last backup. Has saved my a** a number of times (even with something as simple as a config change that didn't go as planned - easier to restore than try and backtrack).

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

Once everything is reinstalled, a number of programs that will collect your software keys, or at least a lot of them. I've used Belarc Advisor:

https://www.belarc.com/products_belarc_advisor
My condolences, just take this as a lesson learned... (show quote)


I create a restore point anytime I update anything or add any program. They have saved me several times.

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Sep 14, 2021 16:58:24   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
I create a restore point anytime I update anything or add any program. They have saved me several times.


An excellent recommendation but it only affects the OS, not your data. If you want to be able to restore your data and file system to a previous point in time, either use a service that supports versioning, or implement VSS (volume shadow copy service) in Windows.

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Sep 14, 2021 17:14:03   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
TriX wrote:
An excellent recommendation but it only affects the OS, not your data. If you want to be able to restore your data and file system to a previous point in time, either use a service that supports versioning, or implement VSS (volume shadow copy service) in Windows.


Got ya. I have Acronis but only use it when I install a new drive. I have a 4 drive raid setup for my data. What do you think about windows 11?

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Sep 14, 2021 18:12:19   #
profbowman Loc: Harrisonburg, VA, USA
 
Technically, the restore point also effects your programs and their running parameters, but the restore point does not affect the data (that is, user files) the user has created with the programs or gives to the program to manipulate.

BTW, Windows 10 has all the tools internally that one needs to add a new disk drive or to install when a system crashes. I will not get into an argument on this, but I did just do this in the last three days and now have a USB drive as a recovery disk and a DVD as a repair disk. --Richard

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Sep 14, 2021 18:30:06   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
Got ya. I have Acronis but only use it when I install a new drive. I have a 4 drive raid setup for my data. What do you think about windows 11?


I haven’t tried it. My HW doesn’t have the required devices for an upgrade, but I believe you can download the ISO for the beta evaluation version and bypass the requirements. I may try it on an extra Win 10 machine this weekend just to see if it’s possible and worthwhile. Anyone else tried it?

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Sep 14, 2021 20:51:12   #
Joexx
 
Dave Flash wrote:
Joexx,
Thanks for your help. I was fortunate to get my LR6.14 up and working and also recovered my catalog. The organization I was writing about was the LR file structure which is all good now that I located my catalog.
I do have one other issue is when sending NEF files form LR to PS elements 19 the files struggle to open. Some times they do and other time they don’t open to edit. No problem at all with JPEG files, they need are accepted in PSE well. PSE also accepts NEF files from Nikon editing software without a problem. I checked with Adobe but they couldn’t fix it.
Any suggestions? Anyone??
Thanks very much.
Joexx, br Thanks for your help. I was fortunate to... (show quote)


I do not know specifically what your issue is, but an explanation of how these applications (LR , PS etc) access photos, may help you to figure out the problem.
You do not "send" photos between the products.
The photos reside on your computer in a folder somewhere. The photos do not move.
The location of the NEF ( or JPG) files can be found by using standard Windows utilities (File Explorer) and doing a search. LR or PSE do not send them anywhere. These programs have pointers to the photo location. These pointers are stored in the catalog.
That is why you never want to use File Explorer to move or rename photos. If you do this, the LR catalogue will still have the old name or location, and LR will not be able to find it. For some reason, it seems that PSE does not know where these NEF files are. I am not sure what you mean by "struggle to open". If they open but are slow, that sounds very strange. If it just cannot find some files, that would make sense, the pointers to the photos is corrupted or incorrect. It has been several years since I have used PSE, so I do not remember how PSE handles files & pointers, but hopefully this has given you some hints on how to fix it.

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Sep 15, 2021 00:43:57   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
Macrium writes to the boot sector? Really scary, like Intel's IME scary.

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Sep 15, 2021 04:52:42   #
Dave Flash Loc: South Jersey
 
Thank you Joexx for your help.

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Sep 15, 2021 10:21:13   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Laramie wrote:
Macrium writes to the boot sector? Really scary, like Intel's IME scary.


Without delving into it a bit further, I don’t honestly know, but my understanding of IME is that it’s HW/FW based resident on the Intel chipset, while this is just a modification of the Windows boot process /bootmgr, no different from the boot process of any OS. Unlike IME, which is a path for hackers even when the machine is off, this occurs only during the Windows boot process and does not have a direct path to Ethernet.

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