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Is skill no longer a priority? Canon R5 and Sony A9ll. (animal eye detection, 30fps,and a 95% keeper rate)
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Jul 22, 2021 17:33:15   #
Wishjr
 
I am 87 and this question sounds like back in the day when all was manual. First built in exposure meters, then autofocus were ruining photography. All these innovations added since then can be used as needed and then we can concentrate on the image and not the mechanics. I am thankful for all the advancements. However, while I shoot digital I still break out the film gear and shoot a bit slowed down, but guess what, I PP digitally.

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Jul 22, 2021 18:02:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
wdross wrote:
But if one's camera is in the closet ,,,


It all depends on what's in the closet. :sm09

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Jul 22, 2021 18:03:13   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
This is why we have a Forum; we each express our own point of view while acknowledging everyone else's, (while maybe learning something along the way)
Mark

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Jul 22, 2021 18:03:15   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Technology will never replace vision & creativity.

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Jul 22, 2021 18:07:28   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
We each have three tools at our disposal: desire, effort and a camera. Shouldn't you buy the best camera?

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Jul 22, 2021 19:51:51   #
Bonzothemac Loc: Hamilton, MT
 
I think the final results is what counts. I'm always struggling with focus and I make a good portion of my income from photography so I've been thinking about making the leap to the R5. I'm a Nikon shooter so this is a big one for me.

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Jul 22, 2021 20:17:51   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.


For millions, no doubt robotic automation is all there is. But what has not changed for the seriously artistic photographer is that one decides beforehand what image is wanted, then uses technologies, science, and various tools to achieve it. This may be accomplished with point and shoot, but all too often that will not give us a picture that we wanted or visualized. Unless I know what my camera's setting will give me, I am shooting blindfolded. So I look at what automatic exposure suggests, then decide if that will give me what I want (or elements that are too dark or too light, etc.. And automatic speed or aperture will only tell me what would work for a certain result. I have to decide what will freeze the motion, what will blur it a bit--or a lot; and I have to decide what depth of field I want. Even the choice of lens can change the result.

So all the science and technology is there to help us manipulate the image to our liking. Technology is a springboard from which to dive, not a sofa to lie back on.

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Jul 22, 2021 20:26:26   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Bonzothemac wrote:
I think the final results is what counts. I'm always struggling with focus and I make a good portion of my income from photography so I've been thinking about making the leap to the R5. I'm a Nikon shooter so this is a big one for me.


If you are struggling with focus, switching from one brand to another isn't the answer. Nothing wrong with switching to the R5, but you may want to investigate if the camera is really the issue.

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Jul 22, 2021 20:37:37   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Cutting down on the number of "cruddy pictures", wouldn't that be a good thing?

You betcha!

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Jul 22, 2021 20:39:47   #
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Spirit Vision Photography wrote:
Technology will never replace vision & creativity.

Already has, quite a while ago.

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Jul 22, 2021 20:47:16   #
FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.

I quite enjoy my camera's technology doing what I paid for it to do and allows me to hone my skill in finding something to shoot . . . .

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Jul 22, 2021 20:49:02   #
Bonzothemac Loc: Hamilton, MT
 
I just calibrated my lens to my new camera body and it's better but I still struggle with the camera's autofocus settings to get the right focus. I often photograph running horses with fences in the background and my camera often grabs focus on the fence! The eye focus technology is really appealing for these situations.

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Jul 22, 2021 21:01:05   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Bonzothemac wrote:
I just calibrated my lens to my new camera body and it's better but I still struggle with the camera's autofocus settings to get the right focus. I often photograph running horses with fences in the background and my camera often grabs focus on the fence! The eye focus technology is really appealing for these situations.




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Jul 22, 2021 21:10:55   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Bonzothemac wrote:
I just calibrated my lens to my new camera body and it's better but I still struggle with the camera's autofocus settings to get the right focus. I often photograph running horses with fences in the background and my camera often grabs focus on the fence! The eye focus technology is really appealing for these situations.


That’s why chg_canon says get the best camera.😄

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Jul 22, 2021 23:14:24   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Need. I don't need an EOS R5 at this point in my photography. My current lenses and cameras deliver everything I need.

Goals. My goal is to drain the entire economic value out of my pair of EOS 5DIII bodies, then consider new options.

Plan. I made a plan about 8 years ago to use my pair of cutting-edge technology EOS 5DIII bodies for 10 years or failure, whichever came first. Neither has failed and both register 120,000+ shutters. No new bodies clearly distinguish a difference from these 2012 bodies.

Mirrorless. My mirrorless needs are satisfied with a plenty capable Sony a7II.
Need. I don't i need /i an EOS R5 at this point ... (show quote)

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I like to have options avaiable to me. I am moving from film to digital. There appears to be numerous options avaiable to all of us and I like what I see.
Mundy

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