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Jun 9, 2021 18:33:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
wdross wrote:

The truly great video units are very big and very expensive and very worth both in the hands of a true pro shooting very high end. But not every consumer, enthusiast, and pro necessarily needs all that quality. Always the right tool for the right job. Panasonic, and their 4/3rds pro cameras, is basically the video/still leader in the full frame, APS-C, 4/3rds, and cellphone world. It will be interesting to see how much video knowledge Panasonic ends up putting in their full frame S series. It can only help Panasonic's bottom line.
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Read what DPReview said about the S1H. They use it for most of their video reviews and features.

https://m.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-s1h-review

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Jun 9, 2021 21:04:52   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, that's another concern, but isn't that worldwide?


There are some mirrorless systems, like the new Canon R5, that no longer have that limitation.

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Jun 9, 2021 23:33:01   #
Bret Perry
 
We do video for long-form commercials (1/2 hour) for non-profits.
We go to Africa and other remote locations to shoot.
About 15 years ago we stopped using camcorders and switched to a Canon 5D.
Now we use also use a Sony Alpha 6000.

So yes, camcorders are seldom used except for high-end projects and most of those dedicated "camcorders" are in the $6K range and up and used for feature films and major network broadcasts.

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Jun 10, 2021 09:43:42   #
Radioactive Loc: Bellingham
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Well, the new Sony A1 has no video limit at all...so.


They are probably willing to pay the import tariffs and pass this price increase along to the consumer.

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Jun 10, 2021 09:57:37   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
Two years ago I was invited to participate in a Documentary. The Producer had already won several Emmys. During filming of a "mock" class I was teaching for this documentary, they were using Canon 6D's with external mics (don't remember the brand of mic). Anyway, this documentary won an Emmy also. Takeaway - while a dedicated video camera will almost certainly do a better job at many cinematic tasks, the good DSLR can still produce pretty amazing results these days and are adequate for a lot of use cases.

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Jun 11, 2021 04:24:08   #
Doddy Loc: Barnard Castle-England
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, that's another concern, but isn't that worldwide?


Yes jerry, it seems that all Cameras that have video capability are restricted to 30 mins.

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Jun 11, 2021 07:51:34   #
Canisdirus
 
Doddy wrote:
Yes jerry, it seems that all Cameras that have video capability are restricted to 30 mins.


Not so.
My A7RIV has no recording limit.
The new A1 has no limit as well.

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Jun 11, 2021 10:57:11   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Doddy wrote:
Yes jerry, it seems that all Cameras that have video capability are restricted to 30 mins.


Panasonic hybrid mirrorless cameras have had no limitations since the GH4 came out in 2014. As long as there’s power and storage space, they keep recording. They DO have to save separate 4GB chunk files, but dropping them into your editor in sequence creates a seamless timeline.

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Jun 11, 2021 11:54:12   #
Doddy Loc: Barnard Castle-England
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Not so.
My A7RIV has no recording limit.
The new A1 has no limit as well.


I stand corrected.

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Jun 11, 2021 13:09:14   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Doddy wrote:
I stand corrected.


The misunderstanding is understandable. It appears that the DSLRs and mirrorless cameras were treated differently under import requirements. "Corrected" a little harsh. You have been properly or better informed; most of us do not need that much correcting.

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Jun 12, 2021 22:40:31   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Whenever I see someone filming online (Yes, I know it's not really film), they are using a DSLR or a compact. That seems to be the standard way to film now. I still use a camcorder.


Ah, yes.
The Goode Olde Days.
Carrying a Nikon with 2 extra lenses AND a Sony Viewcam AND a white brick phone with a 2 foot antenna.
PLUS the extra batteries, bags, straps, etc.
My phone doesn't take lowlight pics- but it does everything else OK.
What I want? What I really really want?
A 10" iPod based on a M2 mini with the iPhone built in.
One thing to rule them all!

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Jun 13, 2021 11:44:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Harry0 wrote:
Ah, yes.
The Goode Olde Days.
Carrying a Nikon with 2 extra lenses AND a Sony Viewcam AND a white brick phone with a 2 foot antenna.
PLUS the extra batteries, bags, straps, etc.
My phone doesn't take lowlight pics- but it does everything else OK.
What I want? What I really really want?
A 10" iPod based on a M2 mini with the iPhone built in.
One thing to rule them all!


Sadly, Apple wants to sell you at least two devices… preferably five!

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Jun 13, 2021 12:13:13   #
DHenard Loc: Northeast Tennessee
 
burkphoto wrote:
Sadly, Apple wants to sell you at least two devices… preferably five!


I have yet to buy my 1st. Prefer Samsung.

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Jun 13, 2021 12:37:16   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DHenard wrote:
I have yet to buy my 1st. Prefer Samsung.


Okay by me… I have three Samsung TVs.

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