Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
Has the Still Camera Become the Standard Camcorder?
Page <prev 2 of 3 next>
Jun 9, 2021 07:47:58   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Many videos online are shot with phones... You can buy a 3-axis gimbal stabilizer for under $100 and produce professional-quality videos with little training!

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 07:49:25   #
Radioactive Loc: Bellingham
 
I am not sure Jerry C41.

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 08:23:23   #
brent46 Loc: Grand Island, NY
 
I use a Nikon D7100 to record and stream our church services. The services last a little over 1 hour. I use OBS to record and stream them. That way I am not limited on time by the camera. It works great.

Reply
 
 
Jun 9, 2021 08:44:35   #
Canisdirus
 
Radioactive wrote:
US import restrictions limit the amount of time a DSLR can record to 29min and 59 sec. Longer than that it would be considered a video recorder with high import tariffs.


Well, the new Sony A1 has no video limit at all...so.

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 08:54:09   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Unless your willing to spend big$$$ for a higher end video recorder, the dslr/mirrorless option is most likely a better option. If I was doing a family vacation to someplace like Disney, a camcorder or smart phone would be my first choices.

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 10:04:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Whenever I see someone filming online (Yes, I know it's not really film), they are using a DSLR or a compact. That seems to be the standard way to film now. I still use a camcorder.


I haven’t met anyone using a sub-$3500 camcorder in quite some time. However, most who use less costly gear for video and stills are using mirrorless cameras. Some dSLRs still record video, but they aren’t really great at it if you want very high quality audio and video.

Two great examples of hybrid (stills and video) mirrorless cameras are the Panasonic Lumix GH5 Mark II (Micro 4/3) and the Panasonic Lumix S1H (full frame).

I picked those for their balance of advanced audio and video controls and capabilities. Certain other brands make hybrids with better autofocus for moving subjects, but Lumix seems to rule the AV features list.

The video guys at DPReview use the GH5 Mark II and S1H for most of their video work.

My first serious cameras were SLRs. So when Canon built the EOS 5D Mark II, I paid attention. But the 5DII had crappy internal audio, a recording time limit, and no EVF.

When Lumix launched the GH series, I got really excited, eventually buying a GH4. After four years, it still does the job. But the GH6 has been announced… I may give my GH4 to my kid (his twin already has one) and get a GH6 or GH5 Mark II.

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 10:11:45   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
larryepage wrote:
Interesting question. I know that when I made a 10 minute presentation to go on my church's website last year, I used my D500 because it met the request for me to submit it in 720P format. It also let me deal with my shooting location, where lighting was not ideal. I could set White Balance to compensate for mixed daylight and incandescent lighting, and I could properly control my audio.

But overall, videography is facing many of the same pressures that still photography is dealing with. From what I see of folks making personal videos, the preferred tool is by far the smart phone. While we do have either hired pros come into our school occasionally with a purpose-built video camera for special video projects, I have yet to see anyone shooting video with a dual purpise camera except me. Students use smart phones to build their projects, and teachers use them to build their lesson materials.

I don't know of any families who still own or use a dedicated video camera except my brother, and his has been on the shelf for quite a while, after seeing heavy use for 25 years. He uses his phone now when he takes video, but has moved to digital still photography for most things.
Interesting question. I know that when I made a 10... (show quote)


A friend is a videographer who filmed/videoed a documentary on the impacts of the tornado that devastated a large area in my county in March, 2020. He produced the finished documentary for the local PBS station which has aired the program, and footage was used in statewide news reports. The documentary was nominated for an Emmy award, but didn’t win unfortunately. The entire documentary was shot on an iPhone 11.

Stan

Reply
 
 
Jun 9, 2021 10:27:57   #
User ID
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Unlike DSLR cameras, many camcorders don't have interchangeable lenses. And the ones that do are often very expensive.

TYCO

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 12:25:50   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
User ID wrote:
TYCO

The Tyco videocam for children?

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 13:10:52   #
DHenard Loc: Northeast Tennessee
 
For the average person, a cell phone is more than adequate.

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 17:24:23   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
kymarto wrote:
They are far better quality than anything other that a pro videocamera, and even with those, only a very few are full frame.



The truly great video units are very big and very expensive and very worth both in the hands of a true pro shooting very high end. But not every consumer, enthusiast, and pro necessarily needs all that quality. Always the right tool for the right job. Panasonic, and their 4/3rds pro cameras, is basically the video/still leader in the full frame, APS-C, 4/3rds, and cellphone world. It will be interesting to see how much video knowledge Panasonic ends up putting in their full frame S series. It can only help Panasonic's bottom line.

Reply
 
 
Jun 9, 2021 18:10:13   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
burkphoto wrote:
I haven’t met anyone using a sub-$3500 camcorder in quite some time. However, most who use less costly gear for video and stills are using mirrorless cameras. Some dSLRs still record video, but they aren’t really great at it if you want very high quality audio and video.

Two great examples of hybrid (stills and video) mirrorless cameras are the Panasonic Lumix GH5 Mark II (Micro 4/3) and the Panasonic Lumix S1H (full frame).

I picked those for their balance of advanced audio and video controls and capabilities. Certain other brands make hybrids with better autofocus for moving subjects, but Lumix seems to rule the AV features list.

The video guys at DPReview use the GH5 Mark II and S1H for most of their video work.

My first serious cameras were SLRs. So when Canon built the EOS 5D Mark II, I paid attention. But the 5DII had crappy internal audio, a recording time limit, and no EVF.

When Lumix launched the GH series, I got really excited, eventually buying a GH4. After four years, it still does the job. But the GH6 has been announced… I may give my GH4 to my kid (his twin already has one) and get a GH6 or GH5 Mark II.
I haven’t met anyone using a sub-$3500 camcorder i... (show quote)


I suspect either the GH5 mkII or GH6 will fit much better in your business plan that the great but now older GH4. I know I will be interested in which one wins and why.

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 18:26:23   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Radioactive wrote:
US import restrictions limit the amount of time a DSLR can record to 29min and 59 sec. Longer than that it would be considered a video recorder with high import tariffs.


Not at all true for Panasonic GHx and S1H cameras. No limits! The GH5 family can use external power and the user can hot-swap SDXC cards (dual card slots = no stopping), or connect a large external SSD.

Of course, they are MILCs, not dSLRs.

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 18:28:49   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
wdross wrote:
I suspect either the GH5 mkII or GH6 will fit much better in your business plan that the great but now older GH4. I know I will be interested in which one wins and why.




We shall see. The GH5M2 is probably enough for what I do.

Reply
Jun 9, 2021 18:33:18   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
StanMac wrote:
A friend is a videographer who filmed/videoed a documentary on the impacts of the tornado that devastated a large area in my county in March, 2020. He produced the finished documentary for the local PBS station which has aired the program, and footage was used in statewide news reports. The documentary was nominated for an Emmy award, but didn’t win unfortunately. The entire documentary was shot on an iPhone 11.

Stan


As some of the higher end technologies trickle as far down as the consumer end equipment, this will become even less of a surprise. I work with a coworker that did win an Emmy and I can tell you for sure, your friend did a phenomenal job, no matter what the equipment, just to be nominated. My "hat" is off for your friend's hard work.

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 3 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.