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Jun 9, 2021 11:45:12   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Curtis_Lowe wrote:
Be careful Kraken you may hurt yourself. VP Pence did the same thing. They are not just leaving Guatemala they are going to the US, if they were just leaving Guatemala they could stop along the way after escaping the horrors you pretend are driving them. They come here for the benefits of living in this great country, all the free stuff for poor people, the great opportunities that are willing to sacrifice and do for themselves and the protections our systems of Laws offer. The ROOT cause is here both in the attraction and the change in policy of managing the border.
Be careful Kraken you may hurt yourself. VP Pence... (show quote)


Foolish post. You wish to punish. Adults wish to mitigate the problem.

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Jun 9, 2021 11:46:58   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
soba1 wrote:
No one has the guts to to the right thing. Admit you were wrong reinstate Trumps policies. Also cut off the draw government aid to those who enter illegally. Instead of letting people just walking free once they get here. Hold them put them on ships and drop them off closest to the country of origin from which they came. There is no easy solution but tough love is required.


Even if we violate US and international law doing your bidding?

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Jun 9, 2021 11:51:07   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
anotherview wrote:
Kamal has no experience either in immigration matters or in international relations. The disbursement of Yankee dollars to Guatemala cannot paper over her tyro status. She will gain due attention and practiced smiles from government officials there as necessary for the infusion of these dollars.

But nobody so far has linked these dollars to progress (meaning change for the better) in moderating the supposed hostile conditions in that tiny nation and driving its citizens to flee to the U.S. Other sources say these individuals seek economic betterment here.

They do not want to stay in their own country to work to lift it. They know that endemic corruption stands in the way of improving the conditions for the little people.

In the meantime, she has run from her assignment by the President to manage the situation at the U.S.-Mexico border, which incidentally she has never once visited. Going there conflicts with the potential of her political future (a run for the presidency).

Besides, wh**ever Kamal or the President say, actions speak louder than words. The foreign nationals perceive an open U.S.-Mexico border. Biden has fomented this view by his dismantling the controls that the former President put in place to secure the border.
Kamal has no experience either in immigration matt... (show quote)


Is tyro a word you just discovered? Why did you never use it to describe Trump?

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Jun 9, 2021 11:53:24   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
They ignore the t***h; about Trump and the majority of the Republican Party whose only agenda is to suppress the v**e, and prevent Biden from being successful. They have no initiatives—none.
They have made this country dysfunctional.


I can't wait for the country to v**e Republican (despite the only GOP objective being to stop the Democrats from doing anything). And then when the Democrats see that being a Congressional "boat anchor" (i.e., a do-nothing obstructionist obstacle) is a successful re-e******n policy they come out and say "Our only objective is to stop the Republicans from achieving anything."

Truly the evolution of the greatest democracy the world has ever seen!!!!!!

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Jun 9, 2021 11:53:28   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
anotherview wrote:
In fairness, news media reports, although few, have said that border officials immediately deport single i*****l m*****ts.

Everybody else apparently stays in the U.S. for processing, with some released to the interior while awaiting a court hearing date sometime in the future. Reports say only about ten percent of the i*****l m*****ts appear for their day in court.


You cite "reports" but you don't identify any.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:31:03   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
Curtis_Lowe wrote:
Be careful Kraken you may hurt yourself. VP Pence did the same thing. They are not just leaving Guatemala they are going to the US, if they were just leaving Guatemala they could stop along the way after escaping the horrors you pretend are driving them. They come here for the benefits of living in this great country, all the free stuff for poor people, the great opportunities that are willing to sacrifice and do for themselves and the protections our systems of Laws offer. The ROOT cause is here both in the attraction and the change in policy of managing the border.
Be careful Kraken you may hurt yourself. VP Pence... (show quote)


BS. Answer the question "Why are they coming to the US?" Where they currently live as well as "stopping points along the way" is untenable. Hunger, murder, theft, rape, bribery, graft, and other crimes are rampant. The change in policy at the border is a non factor. All the "free" stuff for the poor is a non factor. They are willing to sacrifice, do for themselves, and take advantage of the protections our systems of laws provides. You have nerve to say PRETEND. Do you not watch anything but FOX Snooze? Of course not, you're a Republicant. Lots of b***hin' no doin'.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:32:56   #
CWGordon
 
soba:
Regarding your “tough love” policy on Immigrants. Is it possible a more accurate description might be “Kidnapping.” Usually a felony, I suppose we could just decriminalize it, like smoking Pot.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:34:51   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
Watosh wrote:
We the people have determined that Kamala Harris is a Marxist and flew over the border crisis to get to
Guatemala, just because it has "Mala" in its name. She apparently took a ton of US taxpayer cash to give the
corrupt government of said "Mala", proving again that the only thing she knows anything about is Willie Brown's
anatomy.


We the people? Got mice in your pocket? Sounds a little like jealousy rearing its ugly head.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:41:03   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
anotherview wrote:
From what I gather, the i*****l m*****ts seek entry to the U.S. primarily for their economic betterment. This fact explains why 90 percent of asylum applications go nowhere. The criteria for asylum does not include this motivation.

The trip to Mexico and Central America by VP Kamal will produce news stories, but effective measures to stop illegal migration from these places to the U.S. the President has abandoned or winked at. He stopped further construction of the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. He stopped the program to keep asylum-seekers waiting in Mexico while initially processing their cases.

Instead of promptly deporting all i*****l m*****ts including minors, he has detained them in the U.S. at great cost to taxpayers. He has put unaccompanied minors in "pods" (AKA cages) while awaiting processing. News reports say he deports adult i*****l m*****ts, but this aspect of his bungling at the border receives scant attention.

He put a tyro (VP Kamal) in charge of managing the social invasion of the U.S. at the border with Mexico. Kamal has yet to visit the border to examine conditions there (because doing so would threaten her political future). Now she has taken a trip to confer with leadership in Central America and Mexico as to root causes of illegal migration to the U.S. She has no prior experience in international relations, either.

In addition, adults with their eyes open and brains engaged know that endemic corruption exists in these places. So, any U.S. taxpayer dollars that go thereto will almost for sure only line the pockets of the corrupt elite, not go to relieve onerous conditions that push their people to migrate illegally to the U.S.

Overall, potential i*****l m*****ts sense that the President has opened the border to all comers. His practices speak louder than words. The invasion continues because the President has refused to close the border to i*****l m*****ts.
From what I gather, the i*****l m*****ts seek entr... (show quote)


Bye the bye. The WALL was proved to be virtually useless; easily scalable or otherwise bypassed. A HUGE monument to Drumpf.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:46:02   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
anotherview wrote:
From what I gather, the i*****l m*****ts seek entry to the U.S. primarily for their economic betterment. This fact explains why 90 percent of asylum applications go nowhere. The criteria for asylum does not include this motivation.

The trip to Mexico and Central America by VP Kamal will produce news stories, but effective measures to stop illegal migration from these places to the U.S. the President has abandoned or winked at. He stopped further construction of the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. He stopped the program to keep asylum-seekers waiting in Mexico while initially processing their cases.

Instead of promptly deporting all i*****l m*****ts including minors, he has detained them in the U.S. at great cost to taxpayers. He has put unaccompanied minors in "pods" (AKA cages) while awaiting processing. News reports say he deports adult i*****l m*****ts, but this aspect of his bungling at the border receives scant attention.

He put a tyro (VP Kamal) in charge of managing the social invasion of the U.S. at the border with Mexico. Kamal has yet to visit the border to examine conditions there (because doing so would threaten her political future). Now she has taken a trip to confer with leadership in Central America and Mexico as to root causes of illegal migration to the U.S. She has no prior experience in international relations, either.

In addition, adults with their eyes open and brains engaged know that endemic corruption exists in these places. So, any U.S. taxpayer dollars that go thereto will almost for sure only line the pockets of the corrupt elite, not go to relieve onerous conditions that push their people to migrate illegally to the U.S.

Overall, potential i*****l m*****ts sense that the President has opened the border to all comers. His practices speak louder than words. The invasion continues because the President has refused to close the border to i*****l m*****ts.
From what I gather, the i*****l m*****ts seek entr... (show quote)


The Republicants for years have refused to make any changes in i*********n l*ws. They are do nothings, except to block Democrat sponsored programs, which work.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:48:42   #
FrumCA
 
anotherview wrote:
In fairness, news media reports, although few, have said that border officials immediately deport single i*****l m*****ts.

Everybody else apparently stays in the U.S. for processing, with some released to the interior while awaiting a court hearing date sometime in the future. Reports say only about ten percent of the i*****l m*****ts appear for their day in court.

Thanks for pointing out that single i******s are immediately deported. I believe that is correct. Your second point highlights the crux of the issue. These folks most of whom, if any, have not been vetted are released into our country on a promise to return for a hearing on their request for asylum. I have seen reports that some hearings take up to 5 years to schedule. So 90% of those who enter illegally are released and unaccounted for a lengthy period of time. Therein lies the problem with biden's immigration policy.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:52:48   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
BS. Answer the question "Why are they coming to the US?" Where they currently live as well as "stopping points along the way" is untenable. Hunger, murder, theft, rape, bribery, graft, and other crimes are rampant. The change in policy at the border is a non factor. All the "free" stuff for the poor is a non factor. They are willing to sacrifice, do for themselves, and take advantage of the protections our systems of laws provides. You have nerve to say PRETEND. Do you not watch anything but FOX Snooze? Of course not, you're a Republicant. Lots of b***hin' no doin'.
BS. Answer the question "Why are they coming ... (show quote)


You wouldn't want to accept a job educating Curtis if your pay was to be contingent on your results.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:54:24   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
FrumCA wrote:
Thanks for pointing out that single i******s are immediately deported. I believe that is correct. Your second point highlights the crux of the issue. These folks most of whom, if any, have not been vetted are released into our country on a promise to return for a hearing on their request for asylum. I have seen reports that some hearings take up to 5 years to schedule. So 90% of those who enter illegally are released and unaccounted for a lengthy period of time. Therein lies the problem with biden's immigration policy.
Thanks for pointing out that single i******s are i... (show quote)


Why do you cite no sources?

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Jun 9, 2021 12:58:22   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
thom w wrote:
You wouldn't want to accept a job educating Curtis if your pay was to be contingent on your results.


Roger that.

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Jun 9, 2021 13:15:09   #
CWGordon
 
FrumCa:
Is it the Biden policy on scheduling Hearings that bothers you, or that he feels compelled to follow the Law on handling these situations. Where would you suggest that these people coming here legally be placed? In prison for 5 years? Now that would be expensive would it not? Cruel and unusual pun ishment? What would you have the Administration do? I suppose they could merely overrule the laws of the land, Trump chose that route.

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