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Jun 14, 2021 17:01:02   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 


Other than newsweek being extremely biased I see it as giving Trump credit for the mission act and getting rid of Obamas 'roadblocks' to getting care on the outside. After Trump got elected I saw many firings in the va, including my doctor who needed to be fired. Even after that so called doctors with the va get away with murder that doctors on the outside couldn't get away with. I've got a doctor now that I haven't even met and don't care to. For years vets have told horror stories about the va and some doctors and I completely agree. I've got stories of my own about the incompetence of va doctors including my current one. I've seen the help Trump gave vets so a biased opinion really doesn't carry weight with anyone who is in the middle of it.

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Jun 14, 2021 17:25:14   #
Triple G
 
scooter1 wrote:
Other than newsweek being extremely biased I see it as giving Trump credit for the mission act and getting rid of Obamas 'roadblocks' to getting care on the outside. After Trump got elected I saw many firings in the va, including my doctor who needed to be fired. Even after that so called doctors with the va get away with murder that doctors on the outside couldn't get away with. I've got a doctor now that I haven't even met and don't care to. For years vets have told horror stories about the va and some doctors and I completely agree. I've got stories of my own about the incompetence of va doctors including my current one. I've seen the help Trump gave vets so a biased opinion really doesn't carry weight with anyone who is in the middle of it.
Other than newsweek being extremely biased I see i... (show quote)


You can find the same fact checking accuracy by doing it yourself. trump cannot take credit for VA choice which began in 2014. I applaud that he extended the program; just tired of his lies. I work with TriCare members who are also eligible for Medicare. Healthcare, in general, is a local consideration. If there is a large base and military population nearby, then quality care is much easier to find. If not, it’s a crap shoot. Our local vets need to travel over 2 hours to Nashville for quality care for their service-related care and use Medicare providers or VA choice clinics for non-service related illnesses. Agent Orange related care is the most prevalent diagnosis requiring travel to Nashville. Your anecdotal experience, while important to you, is not one experienced by all. The fact that you still have crappy doctors should tell you that things are not good at VA healthcare.

https://www.asbestos.com/veterans/top-cities-veteran-health-care/

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Jun 14, 2021 17:42:45   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Triple G wrote:
You can find the same fact checking accuracy by doing it yourself. trump cannot take credit for VA choice which began in 2014. I applaud that he extended the program; just tired of his lies. I work with TriCare members who are also eligible for Medicare. Healthcare, in general, is a local consideration. If there is a large base and military population nearby, then quality care is much easier to find. If not, it’s a crap shoot. Our local vets need to travel over 2 hours to Nashville for quality care for their service-related care and use Medicare providers or VA choice clinics for non-service related illnesses. Agent Orange related care is the most prevalent diagnosis requiring travel to Nashville. Your anecdotal experience, while important to you, is not one experienced by all. The fact that you still have crappy doctors should tell you that things are not good at VA healthcare.

https://www.asbestos.com/veterans/top-cities-veteran-health-care/
You can find the same fact checking accuracy by do... (show quote)


The part I find unacceptable is these doctors pretty much answer to no one and can do pretty much as they please. I irritated my first va doctor by checking a medication out with the company that made it. When he found out I had the audacity to check with the company even though I had asked him the question a few times with no answer he withheld the medication a few days past time it was due again. This was a med that was not to be missed doses due to the bad side effects when missing a dose. He knew what he was doing by the conversations we had about it. My new doc does the same thing. They show you not to question them in very un-ethical ways. I have run checks on my newest so called doctor who is a female and found that she is rated a 1 out of 5 on some doctor review sites with some bad reviews from everyone who reviewed. They can't make it on the outside so they join the va for protection and a paycheck. VA doctors are protected from personal suits.

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Jun 14, 2021 18:01:30   #
Triple G
 
scooter1 wrote:
The part I find unacceptable is these doctors pretty much answer to no one and can do pretty much as they please. I irritated my first va doctor by checking a medication out with the company that made it. When he found out I had the audacity to check with the company even though I had asked him the question a few times with no answer he withheld the medication a few days past time it was due again. This was a med that was not to be missed doses due to the bad side effects when missing a dose. He knew what he was doing by the conversations we had about it. My new doc does the same thing. They show you not to question them in very un-ethical ways. I have run checks on my newest so called doctor who is a female and found that she is rated a 1 out of 5 on some doctor review sites with some bad reviews from everyone who reviewed. They can't make it on the outside so they join the va for protection and a paycheck. VA doctors are protected from personal suits.
The part I find unacceptable is these doctors pret... (show quote)


I agree! You’ve had horrible experiences. You do have recourse, but it isn’t easy. It’s really not very easy under non-VA either.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-veteran-is-injured-the-va-the-federal-torts-claims-act.html

I find that younger doctors are more open to answering questions. They’ve become used to patients doing an online search prior to appointments. Older doctors (especially the ones with God complexes) aren’t as receptive.

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Jun 14, 2021 22:33:27   #
Leo_B Loc: Houston suburb
 
I don't like Trump, but I don't h**e him. That's the difference. That allows seeing him for what he is, a brash, rough, abrasive, annoying individual who never the less cares about the nation and the citizens and importantly, the Constitution. You pathetic l*****t h**ers are so consumed with your hatred you can't see anything. Pathetic.

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Jun 14, 2021 22:41:51   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
anotherview wrote:
Of course: "You don't put America first by s**tting on others." President Trump instead meant to put the interests of the nation and its people first over the interests of others.


What trump put first was his pocket first

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Jun 14, 2021 22:46:56   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Triple G wrote:
I agree! You’ve had horrible experiences. You do have recourse, but it isn’t easy. It’s really not very easy under non-VA either.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-veteran-is-injured-the-va-the-federal-torts-claims-act.html

I find that younger doctors are more open to answering questions. They’ve become used to patients doing an online search prior to appointments. Older doctors (especially the ones with God complexes) aren’t as receptive.


Very true.

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Jun 14, 2021 22:54:14   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
What trump put first was his pocket first


Yeah like when he took his salary and banked it. Oops sorry he donated it. But he made so much money while president. Oops he actually lost 700,000,000.00 or 700 million by serving his country. That's per Bloomberg so it looks like you're spewing more TDS h**e and lie about Trump at all costs liberal bulls**t! Don't you just h**e being called out for being a liar?

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Jun 14, 2021 23:04:28   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
scooter1 wrote:
Yeah like when he took his salary and banked it. Oops sorry he donated it. But he made so much money while president. Oops he actually lost 700,000,000.00 or 700 million by serving his country. That's per Bloomberg so it looks like you're spewing more TDS h**e and lie about Trump at all costs liberal bulls**t! Don't you just h**e being called out for being a liar?
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An rerouted our airforce to other side of scotland so could rent planes crew space at his golf club an rooms at Mar-a-Lago which payed more than his wages. You really do believe what he tells you.

Remember he loves the low educated does that ring a bell

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Jun 14, 2021 23:12:40   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
scooter1 wrote:
Yeah like when he took his salary and banked it. Oops sorry he donated it. But he made so much money while president. Oops he actually lost 700,000,000.00 or 700 million by serving his country. That's per Bloomberg so it looks like you're spewing more TDS h**e and lie about Trump at all costs liberal bulls**t! Don't you just h**e being called out for being a liar?
Yeah like when he took his salary and banked it. O... (show quote)


But he did destroy ivanka's shoe, perfume, an clothing business. An wasted all the dress patens china gave ivanka all three of them. He was just china b***h

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Jun 14, 2021 23:13:14   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
An rerouted our airforce to other side of scotland so could rent planes crew space at his golf club an rooms at Mar-a-Lago which payed more than his wages. You really do believe what he tells you.

Remember he loves the low educated does that ring a bell


Wow I prove you wrong on your previous lies so you try it again. You just don't learn do you? Now you spew more garbage that shows you lie. Low educated? Really? Are you sure you said that right? Low educated? I think your phraseology shows who is "low educated". "An rerouted" really? "to the other side of Scotland"? Notice I corrected your scotland to Scotland. "so could rent"? really? "an rooms" really? Wow. Nice try cupcake. "low educated" You're funny.

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Jun 14, 2021 23:15:20   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
But he did destroy ivanka's shoe, perfume, an clothing business. An wasted all the dress patens china gave ivanka all three of them. He was just china b***h


I've got to quit laughing before I reply to this one.

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