A little help explaining mirrorless
Apr 12, 2021 18:31:16 #
IDguy wrote:
You might hate the Sony menu system and terminology as much as I did. I dumped my Sony experiment after six months.
Very happy with my Nikon Z6 and Z50.
Very happy with my Nikon Z6 and Z50.
I switched the awful Sony menus to a language that’s 100% incomprehensible to me so that I wouldn’t be irritated by the crazy terminology and illogical logic.
Much happier now. Even seems like the camera is now less noisy, plus a few of the old lenses are now slightly sharper.
Apr 12, 2021 19:22:04 #
runakid
Loc: Shelbyville, TN
CHG_CANON wrote:
Your wife has a better sense of the family's equip... (show quote)
My wife uses her 7100 and a Nikon 18-300 most of the time for her quilt groups monthly photos. I bought her the 500 PF but it is still too heavy to shoot handheld for her.
I am sure we will keep and use what we have for now and for sometime.
Apr 12, 2021 19:23:47 #
runakid
Loc: Shelbyville, TN
nicksr1125 wrote:
Most of the weight is in the lens not the body. Unless you have a significant reason to upgrade your camera body, don't. Mirrorless won't improve your photos if you're happy with the performance of your current cameras. Mirrorless has some advantages but, if you switch to Sony, you're looking at all new glass as well as a new body.
Yes, we found that out when I bought her the 500 PF and it was still too heavy for handheld for her. I do love it on my D500.
Apr 12, 2021 20:00:06 #
runakid wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter as is my wife. We are both in... (show quote)
"Is switching to mirrorless now or later going to give me better pictures?" In a nutshell, NO. You wont really notice a weight difference either. A mirrorless camera has fewer moving parts, so it's slightly lighter, a little less bulky, and are a little less noisy because there is no mirror slap. Truth is, eventually you will be forced to make a move to MLS, but maybe not since you may not live to see that [along with me].
Apr 12, 2021 20:23:14 #
The new cameras have better lenses, they have faster and more efficient processors.
Your pix will be sharper, if you are shooting BIF the faster processors will allow you to shoot faster ....
Your pix will be better to a point, the rest depends on the person behind the camera.
The same pic taken with a good new mirrorless and new lens a 6year old camera and 6 year old lens. The new camera will win out every time.
Your pix will be sharper, if you are shooting BIF the faster processors will allow you to shoot faster ....
Your pix will be better to a point, the rest depends on the person behind the camera.
The same pic taken with a good new mirrorless and new lens a 6year old camera and 6 year old lens. The new camera will win out every time.
Apr 13, 2021 05:31:42 #
Apr 13, 2021 06:40:16 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
runakid wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter as is my wife. We are both in... (show quote)
I currently shoot Nikon and Sony, and I shoot the a9 with the 200-600 and 600 f4. I would say I get as many keepers with my Nikon 200-500 and 500 PF as I do with my a9 and 200-600 and 600 f4.
Of course, I shoot with a Nikon D500 that has GROUP AUTO FOCUS and this focus setting is ideal for sports and wildlife, the D7100 does not have GROUP AUTO FOCUS.
As far as eye focus goes, I have animal eye focus on the Sony a9, I can tell you that at a distance of 25 feet or more, eye focus does not work, if the bird or animal is close enough to fill the frame, then eye focus kicks in.
In my wild life photography I have not seen eye focus as a game changer for me.
I do like the 20 fps I get with the a9 and with mirrorless I can quickly change my setting in manual as I look through the viewfinder. BUT, in manual I can see where my exposures fall in the viewfinder with the Nikon D500 and D850.
IMHO, I would get the Nikon D500 or D850, it would be a lot less investment than going to Sony.
Below is a shot from the Nikon D500 with the 500 PF lens, it has sold very well at shows. Below that one is a recent shot from my a9 with the 200-600 lens.
Like I said from the beginning, I do not see any great difference in quality of prints from either system.
Quality of prints has always been, and will always be, the quality of the photographer.
Apr 13, 2021 07:22:26 #
sueyeisert
Loc: New Jersey
I agree. I loved my Nikon equipment, but I wanted lighter weight so I got Fuji and love it. Lighter weight makes a big difference to my shoulder and back.
Apr 13, 2021 07:41:16 #
Apr 13, 2021 08:04:56 #
I have a pocket-size Sony RX100 for travel shots, and as a long time Nikon user absolutely hate their menus. I do like the combination of size and image quality which is why I bought it. The original Z cameras had some focusing images, but that's no longer the case. If you rent a Z6ii or Z7ii I think you will find either to be amazing cameras - and the Z lenses are phenomenal.
Apr 13, 2021 08:20:03 #
Unfortunately Nikon is behind in the mirrorless cameras, Sony has some good features, The relativity new Canon R5 and R6 are making Sony sweat right now as the auto focus is probably the best out there, along with the beat selection of lenses. There are other brands also available also. I would suggest trying out different ones before buying or changing brands. If you have Nikon lenses I would suggest staying with Nikon, as lenses are what you are probably vested in.
Apr 13, 2021 08:25:56 #
I switched from Nikon to Sony a few years ago, a D800e to A7R2 and now A7R4. My proportion of keepers has gone way up because of the accuracy of the EVF in showing exactly what I am going to get, both in terms of exposure and critical focus. The in body stabilization has also proved very useful in handheld shooting. Not only that, the ability to shoot silently has allowed shooting in situations that formerly would have been dicey. And for low light shooting, the EVF is a hands down winner. The only issue I had with the R2 was the viewfinder lag, but that is nearly gone with the R4. All in all, I would never go back to a dslr, which now feels to me like ancient history.
Apr 13, 2021 08:28:16 #
runakid wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter as is my wife. We are both in... (show quote)
Your D500 / 500pf should be a great combo for wildlife. While the new Sony cameras may get you more keepers I'm not sure that the IQ is much better, if any. My own thinking is to "master" what I have - then I should know what I would like to have that my current rig doesn't offer. Only then will I upgrade. If you can't answer that then you're not ready - my opinion, and no one ever listens to me, so just think about it.
Apr 13, 2021 08:55:40 #
Apr 13, 2021 08:59:13 #
fetzler
Loc: North West PA
JayRay wrote:
It seems that most DSLR mirror camera versus digit... (show quote)
Jay states the case for mirrorless rather well. Others make the point that a change in equipment is unlikely to make your photographs much better as most improvements come from activity between the ears.
You might consider Olympus gear as the cameras and lenses are much lighter. As others have suggested rent and try.
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