billnikon wrote:
Live view is a term usually used when the rear screen is used for viewing. Mirrorless is a term used for mirrorless camera's. I am sure you are referring to mirrorless camera's?
I currently own both DSLR's and mirrorless camera's, the biggest advantages of mirrorless are that I can see exactly what the exposure is going to be BEFORE I trip the shutter, I no longer need to FINE TURN any lens, and I can shoot at 20 frames a second and soon 30 frames per second.
As far as image quality goes, yes, you can get outstanding image quality from either. Though image quality is more a function of the photographer than the camera.
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Just an observation from a dummy.
I have a Sony a99II which I love. It had a translucent mirror. What I see in my viewfinder is what I get. When I take a shot the mirror doesn't move. All I feel that I would gain if I bought a mirrorless camera would be less weight. My camera's weight has never been a problem for me. I have not seen any reason to change as yet.
I am now 82 years old and weight hasn't been a problem.
Wallen wrote:
LOL ft/sec
fps and FPS are different.....
but hey, lower case for
everything is all the rage.
“Pleeeeze, Mom ?
Can’t we get one of those ?!?”
“Okay, C.J. You just gotta ace your organic chem exam and you got it.”
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CHG_CANON wrote:
One can sooner stop the sun from rising than deny the arrival of mirrorless cameras.
Dang! That would really help Global Warming!
Well - this topic has certainly elicited some humorous responses! Thank you all for your part in this.
I am in the camp that changed to mirrorless a few years ago. My Z6 images are very bit as good as the images that were produced a la my DSLR camera. I love seeing the image 'in resal time' before the shutter is released. I love the reduction in size and weight. I love the "Z" lenses!
I never used 'live view' on my DSLR, most likely because I did not understand what it was/is.
Have a great day!
User ID wrote:
It’s most curious that so many who scoff at the widespread shift to fully live view cameras will tend to point out that they haven’t yet seen any significant gains in image quality from live view systems as compared to SLRs. Is this ordinary short sightedness or is it an intentional classic straw man thing ? I haven’t yet heard of anyone adopting live view primarily for its image quality.
I've never compared image quality between live view and viewfinder image quality.
But a camera without a viewfinder is a no-go for me. Simply because when I first started to use a camera, I was allowed to borrow one of my Dad's (I was 12 yrs old at the time). He taught me how to hold and use it.
I was 21 when I finally bought my own camera - and used it exactly the same way Dad had taught me.
I find that feet apart a bit, elbows pushed against my side and pushing the camera against my face does help with holding it still.
Today's camera having an articulated live view is a bonus: The grandkids hate to have their pictures taken and would disappear as soon as brought out my camera and started to lift it to my face. That's when the camera gets to sit on a table, chair, my knee, or whatever stable surface is available, the screen gets positioned so that I can see the kids in it, and I've got the remote in my hand. Took some of my very best grandkid-pics that way!
[quote=User ID]I’ll admit to having gear I don’t need. None of it is top shelf, so it’s not boosting my status before my peers either.
””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
"Boosting my status before my peers."
Problem for me is that I have no peers!" :-)
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't like either live view of EVF so I stick with the SLR. I never liked the rangefinder either. If not SLR then I would go for a view camera. I like to observe the image formed by the lens.
Actually, you don’t see the image formed by the lens. You only see a reflection of what is in front of your camera. Your image can be wildly over or underexposed and not know it until you make the shot. I don’t like the image in my mirrorless viewfinder either but I love seeing the exact exposure I’m going to get.
This entire topic strikes me as strange. An awful lot of photographers justifying their decision to stay with what I consider obsolete technology. Virtually everything about my mirrorless camera is a step up in technology. Some of it an unfathomable improvement. Hanging on to DSLR is, in my opinion, like the railroad companies hanging on to the steam engine when the diesel locomotives came out. I collect old cameras and love them. So far, they are all mechanical film cameras. When digital SLRs get cheap enough, they will get added to my collection. For now, I have sold both of my awesome Canon’s and have no interest in looking back.
Mikeg50 wrote:
Actually, you don’t see the image formed by the lens. You only see a reflection of what is in front of your camera. Your image can be wildly over or underexposed and not know it until you make the shot. I don’t like the image in my mirrorless viewfinder either but I love seeing the exact exposure I’m going to get.
This entire topic strikes me as strange. An awful lot of photographers justifying their decision to stay with what I consider obsolete technology. Virtually everything about my mirrorless camera is a step up in technology. Some of it an unfathomable improvement. Hanging on to DSLR is, in my opinion, like the railroad companies hanging on to the steam engine when the diesel locomotives came out. I collect old cameras and love them. So far, they are all mechanical film cameras. When digital SLRs get cheap enough, they will get added to my collection. For now, I have sold both of my awesome Canon’s and have no interest in looking back.
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So if you remove the lens you still see the image in front of the camera?
BebuLamar wrote:
So if you remove the lens you still see the image in front of the camera?
Howbout that. Took off the lens and the frosted screen that blocked my view, and I saw a reflection of what’s in front of the camera. Try it for yourself.
Definitely cannot do that with live view cameras. Totally pointless exercise, but there it was, a reflection of what’s in front of the camera, plain as day, and without any lens.
Then I put the lens back on the camera and couldn’t see much, until I also put the frosted screen back. So, what you actually see through a fully assembled SLR is just a piece of frosted plastic.
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