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Sep 15, 2020 08:57:01   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
eadler wrote:
Leica CL. Yes it's pricey but I think worth it. It's easy to operate with three buttons and two dial. Leica's philosophy is to give you everything that you need but not the things that you don't. The recent firmware update to the menu allows you change about ten different settings such as ISO, shooting mode, shutter speed aperture from a single screen. You can choose lenses from Sigma, and Panasonic as well as M mount lenses with an adaptor. Last but not least it takes great photos.


price?

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Sep 15, 2020 09:01:09   #
TommiRulz Loc: Corpus Christi, TX
 
Just a quick opinion.... I would stay away from Canon M - anything. Canon is not making quality lenses for these products. They are completely focused on their R products. I had two M cameras over the last couple years and got very frustrated with the lens situation. Canon just wants you to use your DSLR lenses (with an adaptor) - which defeats the purpose of the mirrorless to me.

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Sep 15, 2020 10:32:43   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
mcacm111 wrote:
I would like to ask for advice on what camera to purchase next. Perhaps some background would help. Twenty years ago I sold my Nikon manual film SLR and began to use point-and-shoot digitals. My two most recent cameras were a Sony NEX-3, and, for the last 4-5 years, a Sony RX100 IV. The aim was minimal weight and bulk, with acceptable image quality; and I'm happy enough with the Sony's 24-70mm (35 mm equivalent) zoom range. I almost exclusively shoot jpegs, editing some of those. I take some issue with the color of the Sony's out-of-camera jpegs; have decided I want higher IQ and more dial controls; and am willing to accept somewhat more bulk and weight. Probably would only purchase a few lenses. Am considering the following cameras: Fujifilm XT-30 or possibly XT-3, Canon M6 II, Nikon Z50 (APS-C); or Canon RP, Nikon Z5, Sony A7 II (full frame). Would most likely start out with a modest zoom, and would like to initially stay closer to $1K than $2K if possible. Notice I'm looking for compactness within those categories; and wondering if I really need to go to full frame.

Any opinions would be most appreciated.
I would like to ask for advice on what camera to p... (show quote)


As Pentax has had me as a major FAN since i bought my first, while serving as a NAVY hospital corpsman, in vietnam(1968-1969) I have stayed with PENTAX ever since. GREAT gear. In the past three years i have been buying and using FUJI, and must admit, I've never owned anything better, other than PENTAX, that is. I now have three FUJI X bodies, and nine FUJI lenses, the most unique lens being my 80mm MACRO, with its' crazy image stabilization system.. I think that pentax and fuji have a lot in common, and I just love using them, and collecting them, obviously. great stuff===fun. ......RJM

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Sep 15, 2020 10:40:47   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
eadler wrote:
Leica CL. Yes it's pricey but I think worth it. It's easy to operate with three buttons and two dial. (((((((((Leica's philosophy is to give you everything that you need but not the things that you don't.)))))))))))) The recent firmware update to the menu allows you change about ten different settings such as ISO, shooting mode, shutter speed aperture from a single screen. You can choose lenses from Sigma, and Panasonic as well as M mount lenses with an adaptor. Last but not least it takes great photos.
Leica CL. Yes it's pricey but I think worth it. It... (show quote)


Notice my parentheses, Leica is not "GIVING YOU ANYTHING" but is charging you a massive amount for a minimalist tool that you can BRAG?? you paid a foolish amount for. There are certainly a large number of better choices for gear.. Leica would love to decide for you," WHAT YOU NEED", and they would prefer to sell it to you for an unwarranted amount of real CASH. Do as you please, but in the end, ask yourself, what's SMART??...................RJM

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Sep 15, 2020 10:42:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
As I always say, narrow down your choices and then look for as many reviews and comparisons as you can find.

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Sep 15, 2020 10:51:21   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
mcacm111 wrote:
I would like to ask for advice on what camera to purchase next. Perhaps some background would help. Twenty years ago I sold my Nikon manual film SLR and began to use point-and-shoot digitals. My two most recent cameras were a Sony NEX-3, and, for the last 4-5 years, a Sony RX100 IV. The aim was minimal weight and bulk, with acceptable image quality; and I'm happy enough with the Sony's 24-70mm (35 mm equivalent) zoom range. I almost exclusively shoot jpegs, editing some of those. I take some issue with the color of the Sony's out-of-camera jpegs; have decided I want higher IQ and more dial controls; and am willing to accept somewhat more bulk and weight. Probably would only purchase a few lenses. Am considering the following cameras: Fujifilm XT-30 or possibly XT-3, Canon M6 II, Nikon Z50 (APS-C); or Canon RP, Nikon Z5, Sony A7 II (full frame). Would most likely start out with a modest zoom, and would like to initially stay closer to $1K than $2K if possible. Notice I'm looking for compactness within those categories; and wondering if I really need to go to full frame.

Any opinions would be most appreciated.
I would like to ask for advice on what camera to p... (show quote)


Nikon Z50 w 2 lens kit seems to be what you need.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/1632/z-50.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwzIH7BRAbEiwAoDxxTjD87QfuOn9qj6ZcOWcJgoVmKXkVwHYu8L5iLqEdontjWgxLJ4_zpxoCAOMQAvD_BwE

Nikon has gone to touch screen controls on its newer cameras. I find that superior to buttons...particularly unlighted buttons. And they provide programmable functions for the buttons they do have. I have a Z6 and much prefer the touchscreen over the buttons and mostly unreadable top screen my D800 had. The Z6’s top screen is much more readable. And you can program to get what you want in the EVF.

The Z5 lacks the top screen. Otherwise it appears to match Z6. I doubt the Z50 has the top screen...but I don’t use it anyway.

Nikons also have a programmable “My Menu” so if there are other items you use often but can’t get on the touch screen info display or programmable buttons you can put yours there for quick access (e.g. format or clean sensor).

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Sep 15, 2020 11:22:13   #
pila
 
Rent the Fuji. Rent the Nikon.
Compare pics with your Sony.
If you see profound differences let us know.

Otherwise, take a photo class and more photos.

Pila

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Sep 15, 2020 11:34:22   #
Lynn 1509 Loc: Northern Illinois
 
I would suggest you look at the, just released this morning, Sony A7C. It's the size of an APSC camera but has a full size 24 mp recording element. They also released a very light weight 28-60 lens. you may or may not like it, but it's certainly worth a look.

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Sep 15, 2020 11:47:39   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
No question the Fuji is a little heavier than the Sony but not much - the X-E2 body plus the 18-55 is just over a pound and the X-T2 body is 1.1 lbs plus the lens, so neither is heavy. But there are big returns: an APC sensor as opposed to 1 inch which means ~1 stop better low light high ISO performance, interchangeable lenses that are the equal of anyone in the business, and arguably the best/easiest controls of any camera I’ve seen.

A friend who’s a working pro and shoots FF Nikon when “ on duty” always carries a Fuji XT-2 for personal shooting and turned me on to the product. Now, my FF Canon stays in the bag more and more as I pick up the Fuji (for the size and weight) instead. I’m now expanding my Fuji lens lineup as I can afford more, and I can attest that their lenses are easily the equal of my Canon “L series”.

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Sep 15, 2020 11:55:23   #
John from gpwmi Loc: Michigan
 
I would agree with mizzen that you should consider Olympus. Olympus does have outstanding jpeg with great color. For what you want to spend, I believe you could get the combinations mizzee identified, or you may want to consider the new M10,III with the Olympus 12-100mm, f/4 Pro lens (24-200mm). I have both the 14-150 and the 12-100 lenses. Both are very good, but the 12-100 is sharper and has a wide aperture capability of f/4 over the entire zoom range. The M5-II or III cameras will have more features than the M10,III. I don't like to recommend what someone should purchase, because it's best to do your own research and make the best tradeoffs for yourself.

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Sep 15, 2020 12:44:49   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
IDguy wrote:
Nikon Z50 w 2 lens kit seems to be what you need.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/1632/z-50.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwzIH7BRAbEiwAoDxxTjD87QfuOn9qj6ZcOWcJgoVmKXkVwHYu8L5iLqEdontjWgxLJ4_zpxoCAOMQAvD_BwE

Nikon has gone to touch screen controls on its newer cameras. I find that superior to buttons...particularly unlighted buttons. And they provide programmable functions for the buttons they do have. I have a Z6 and much prefer the touchscreen over the buttons and mostly unreadable top screen my D800 had. The Z6’s top screen is much more readable. And you can program to get what you want in the EVF.

The Z5 lacks the top screen. Otherwise it appears to match Z6. I doubt the Z50 has the top screen...but I don’t use it anyway.

Nikons also have a programmable “My Menu” so if there are other items you use often but can’t get on the touch screen info display or programmable buttons you can put yours there for quick access (e.g. format or clean sensor).
Nikon Z50 w 2 lens kit seems to be what you need. ... (show quote)


Dang. Checking it out again convinced me I need the Z50 with two lens kit.

Which means I have a number of items to put up for sale:

D5600
18-300 AF-S lens
70-300 DX AF-P lens

Lumix GM5
12-42 lens
42-200 lens

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Sep 15, 2020 13:27:42   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
You already have modes P, A, S, and M. You also have exposure compensation. I'm sure you can control ISO, shutter speed and/or aperture, what more dial controls are you looking for?

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Sep 15, 2020 13:42:42   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
mcacm111 wrote:
I would like to ask for advice on what camera to purchase next. Perhaps some background would help. Twenty years ago I sold my Nikon manual film SLR and began to use point-and-shoot digitals. My two most recent cameras were a Sony NEX-3, and, for the last 4-5 years, a Sony RX100 IV. The aim was minimal weight and bulk, with acceptable image quality; and I'm happy enough with the Sony's 24-70mm (35 mm equivalent) zoom range. I almost exclusively shoot jpegs, editing some of those. I take some issue with the color of the Sony's out-of-camera jpegs; have decided I want higher IQ and more dial controls; and am willing to accept somewhat more bulk and weight. Probably would only purchase a few lenses. Am considering the following cameras: Fujifilm XT-30 or possibly XT-3, Canon M6 II, Nikon Z50 (APS-C); or Canon RP, Nikon Z5, Sony A7 II (full frame). Would most likely start out with a modest zoom, and would like to initially stay closer to $1K than $2K if possible. Notice I'm looking for compactness within those categories; and wondering if I really need to go to full frame.

Any opinions would be most appreciated.
I would like to ask for advice on what camera to p... (show quote)

I would look at the Fuji X100F, on sale now for about $1,000. Although it has a fixed 23mm (35mm FF equivalent) lens, it has a built in digital teleconverter that lets you also shoot 50mm and 70mm. Yes, it’s done digitally (not optically), but Fuji has built into the camera interpolation software that maintains sharpness throughout 50mm and 70mm.
I’ve taken it on extended trips throughout Europe twice as my only camera, with zero regrets. It weighs a pound, 24MP APS-C, has a leaf shutter which allows you to do sync flash up to 1/4,000 of a second, a built in 3 stop ND filter, plenty of physical dials, and a real retro look.
With this camera I’ve made 30” X 45” prints for my walls that were absolutely beautiful.
Before you decide take a look at it. It’s just an outstanding camera.

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Sep 15, 2020 13:51:37   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
PHRubin wrote:
You already have modes P, A, S, and M. You also have exposure compensation. I'm sure you can control ISO, shutter speed and/or aperture, what more dial controls are you looking for?


The OP can answer for himself.

Not all cameras have ISO button. But that is what I’ve programed the function button to on my D5600.

Not all cameras have a release mode button or dial. But my D5600 has a button and it is accessible on the touchscreen display on my Z6. I could also program Z6 function buttons for that. I may have done so but I forget between camera uses.

The other things I access frequently are the focus mode and focus area. The touchscreen info display has them for D5600 and Z6, and I’m pretty sure Z50.

One control feature I noticed on the Z50 are front and rear adjustment wheels. My D5600 only has rear wheel. Having both, like on all higher end Nikons, makes it a little easier to operate.

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Sep 15, 2020 14:04:11   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
mcacm111 wrote:
I would like to ask for advice on what camera to purchase next. Perhaps some background would help. Twenty years ago I sold my Nikon manual film SLR and began to use point-and-shoot digitals. My two most recent cameras were a Sony NEX-3, and, for the last 4-5 years, a Sony RX100 IV. The aim was minimal weight and bulk, with acceptable image quality; and I'm happy enough with the Sony's 24-70mm (35 mm equivalent) zoom range. I almost exclusively shoot jpegs, editing some of those. I take some issue with the color of the Sony's out-of-camera jpegs; have decided I want higher IQ and more dial controls; and am willing to accept somewhat more bulk and weight. Probably would only purchase a few lenses. Am considering the following cameras: Fujifilm XT-30 or possibly XT-3, Canon M6 II, Nikon Z50 (APS-C); or Canon RP, Nikon Z5, Sony A7 II (full frame). Would most likely start out with a modest zoom, and would like to initially stay closer to $1K than $2K if possible. Notice I'm looking for compactness within those categories; and wondering if I really need to go to full frame.

Any opinions would be most appreciated.
I would like to ask for advice on what camera to p... (show quote)


I agree with Cany143 that you might be best with a Fuji. The image quality is excellent with JPEGs. I also agree with some of the others that you really should at least consider 4/3rds. Olympus tends to offer the most for still images while Panasonic has the edge for video. Both shoot great stills and video. Olympus is one of the top cameras of all brands as far as JPEGs. UHHer Bill at Burkphoto could tell you what would be best to look at for Panasonic. As for Olympus, my suggestion for what to look at would be either the E-M5 mkIII or the E-M1 mkIII along with the 12-100 f4 Pro IS lens. Fantastically sharp through both aperture and zoom ranges, able to do 1/2 lifesize close-up, 6.5 stops image stability, and weatherproof straight out of the box (both bodies and lens). With that lens on, I traveled Germany for a total of nearly two weeks and took the lens off only once for three wider than 12mm shots. It is that good. The only warning that I have about Olympus is use the Super Control Panel while you learn the scroll menu. Olympus deliberately put two menus on their cameras. The Super Control Panel - easy to learn and use for major functions. And the scroll menu - the ultimate menu for total control of a camera (a control freak's dream camera once learned).

Again, Cany143 suggested Fuji cameras but do look at the 4/3rds camera also.

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