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Aug 3, 2020 11:01:16   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rehess wrote:
I know that the Z6 is “FF” - but is still more like the D500 than like the D850, both in sharpness and in high ISO performance.


It’s not liked either the D500 or the D850. As has been said it’s more like the D750.

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Aug 3, 2020 11:25:28   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Brucej67 wrote:
You can't compare a 24mp FF camera against a 46mp FF camera, you could compare the Z6 against the D610, D5 or D750, but not the D850 not even the D810.

I’m not comparing the Z6 to a 46mp camera.

I was saying that the 24mp Z6 might be a good replacement for a 20mp D500 if high ISO and/or fps is most important. As far as I know no Nikon MILC is a good replacement for a D500 if fast, accurate focusing is most important.

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Aug 3, 2020 11:26:03   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
On the road to success, there's no traffic jams on the extra mile, but plenty of full-frame bodies.

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Aug 3, 2020 11:42:27   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
rehess wrote:
I’m not comparing the Z6 to a 46mp camera.

I was saying that the 24mp Z6 might be a good replacement for a 20mp D500 if high ISO and/or fps is most important. As far as I know no Nikon MILC is a good replacement for a D500 if fast, accurate focusing is most important.


I like my D500 with FF lenses for wildlife photography, as of now the Z6 does not have native lenses to do the job and I don't like to use the FTZ adapter. I will use my D850 for wildlife photography as well, but I don't put it in crop mode, I don't like the results. I have done weddings with the Z6 using the 24-70mm F2.8 S lens, however if you don't keep shooting the Z6 goes to sleep (to conserve battery use) and the wake up is to slow and you can miss shots, consequently I use the Z6 mostly for landscape.

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Aug 3, 2020 11:56:16   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rehess wrote:
I’m not comparing the Z6 to a 46mp camera.

I was saying that the 24mp Z6 might be a good replacement for a 20mp D500 if high ISO and/or fps is most important. As far as I know no Nikon MILC is a good replacement for a D500 if fast, accurate focusing is most important.


Yeah, not what you said. Your actual statement was “The Z7 is more like the D850 while the Z6 is more like the D500.”

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Aug 3, 2020 12:07:26   #
jeffhacker Loc: Dallas, Texas
 
no disagreement. If I was comparing with the D850 the natural comparison would be the Z7. But I'm not. If I'm switching from a D500 or other DX format, or anything less than the D850 or D810, then, I think the Z6 is the best compromise. The biggest difference seems to be the 43 megapixels and I don't think that is a big deal to me.

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Aug 3, 2020 12:14:48   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
jeffhacker wrote:
no disagreement. If I was comparing with the D850 the natural comparison would be the Z7. But I'm not. If I'm switching from a D500 or other DX format, or anything less than the D850 or D810, then, I think the Z6 is the best compromise. The biggest difference seems to be the 43 megapixels and I don't think that is a big deal to me.


The dynamic resolution is better on the Z7 than on the Z6 due to the extra megapixels.

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Aug 3, 2020 12:17:09   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Yeah, not what you said. Your actual statement was “The Z7 is more like the D850 while the Z6 is more like the D500.”

That is exactly what I said.

Someone who prefers the D850 will most likely prefer the Z7, which has a higher mp count.

Someone who prefers the D500 will most likely prefer the Z6, which has better high ISO and fps performance.

Someone needs fast focusing should avoid Nikon MILC for now.

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Aug 3, 2020 12:17:27   #
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Brucej67 wrote:
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I have done weddings with the Z6 using the 24-70mm F2.8 S lens, however if you don't keep shooting the Z6 goes to sleep (to conserve battery use) and the wake up is to slow and you can miss shots, consequently I use the Z6 mostly for landscape.


A serious camera whose sleep timer cannot be defeated would only be built by designers so utterly stoooooopid that I would trust NOTHING else that they ever might ever build.

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Aug 3, 2020 12:19:01   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Brucej67 wrote:
The dynamic resolution is better on the Z7 than on the Z6 due to the extra megapixels.

The Z6 has better Dynamic Range performance because the pixels are larger.

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Aug 3, 2020 12:21:11   #
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Brucej67 wrote:
The dynamic resolution is better on the Z7 than on the Z6 due to the extra megapixels.


When was dynamic resolution invented ?

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Aug 3, 2020 12:21:40   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
User ID wrote:
A serious camera whose sleep timer cannot be defeated would only be built by designers so utterly stoooooopid that I would trust NOTHING else that they ever might ever build.


True, but I think for Nikon's entry into the mirror-less field this is how they overcame the problem of battery life. I believe in their next versions they will change this and make a menu item to override the wake up time.

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Aug 3, 2020 12:30:25   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
rehess wrote:
The Z6 has better DR performance because the pixels are larger.


Not really, you will note that the D850 has better DR over the D5 according to DXO lab tests. Sensor type has a lot to do with it, but the light gathering and algorithm of knitting the pixel data together playes an important part. "The Z6 has lower resolution (24.5 megapixels compared to 45.7 megapixels for the Z7), and 273 autofocus points compared to 497 for the Z7. On the plus side, the Z6 has bigger pixels that can gather more light, so it offers an ISO range of 100-51,200 compared to 64-25,600 ISO for the Z7".

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Aug 3, 2020 12:37:27   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
User ID wrote:
When was dynamic resolution invented ?


Dynamic Resolution is the cameras ability to capture a wider range in the gray scale. As far as I know it always existed even in film days and we would judge a films quality on capturing this resolution. There are a number of factors that determine dynamic resolution rather than the common term of resolution which in today's world is attributable to megapixels.

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Aug 3, 2020 12:42:52   #
RLSprouse Loc: Encinitas CA (near Sandy Eggo)
 
I'm not familiar with the term "dynamic resolution". Is this supposed to mean the same thing as dynamic range?

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