CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

To this question and example: no, this demonstration is a clear and accurate demonstration of the power of PS that cannot be accomplished (even attempted) in Lightroom.

But who cares? This level of digital editing and image manipulation is not why LR exists. Most photography is just that: photography. As photography, it doesn't involve merging images. It does not involve cloning / removing / replacing aspects of the original content.

Where photography and digital editing is primarily: cropping, leveling, WB adjustment, contrast / exposure adjustment, sharpening and noise reduction, you've got all these tools (and many more) there in LR. The ability to remove content via cloning and healing is very powerful, but yes, no where near as 'content aware' as PS, nor even PSE. For my own work, if I can't fix (clone / heal) the image with the tools in LR, I just delete the image and move onto one that I shot better rather than needing a more powerful tool to edit.

Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC

Whuff, "Start off with Lightroom and once you learn its functionality and its limitations, start using Photoshop to open up new doors in front of you. But be warned – Photoshop can be both a rewarding and frustrating experience. It is a complex piece of software that has a significant learning curve."

btw, virtually all commercial retouchers use Photoshop... maybe they know something that the less enlightened haven't figured out... "when the student is ready the master will appear" All the best on our journey... namaste

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

The same can be said for the argument against PSE's 8-bit editing, or the image quality when zoomed to 100% of $3,000 camera/lens combos vs. $500 bridge cameras.

A lot of folks who regularly comment in UHH's main discussion state their opinions as if Great Truths. One must learn to glean what's relevant to their own circumstances and interests, or just sit back and enjoy the performances.

Our OP's posting history - and my interactions with him over the years - suggests he does just fine without PS 😊

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Now just wait an 8-bit second .... that's my barrier of entry for RAW editing.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

😀 🤗

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I use LR/PS. ALL my images go into LR primarily because of the image organization capability. LR is a pretty good editor, but PS has it beat by far. Having said that, probably 90% of my image processing stops at LR.

That's not because I don't like to use PS, but because 90% of my images aren't really worth polishing. That might even be a low estimate.

I use PS to do things that LR can't. I used to do all my panoramas in PS but LR has added that capability now. However, there are things you can do in PS with panoramas that are not possible in LR. For example I was at an event where there was a jazz band performance and I wanted a photo of the performers and another of the audience. I didn't have my 14-24 with me so I took the 24-70 and shot a pano sequence three times. Naturally the resulting panorama had a few ghosts in it because neither the jazz band nor the audience was static.

With LR panorama generation, there are only 3 choices of how the images are combined, and they relate to the perspective, not the merging. In PS, you have the same choices, but once you're done you have several masked layers that make up the panorama. You can then take the masks and paint over them so that you can mitigate the ghosting by changing what parts of the images get merged. It doesn't always work but since I take several sequences I can usually find one that does work.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

I never learned what this emoticon/emoji means. Tell me.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I'm guessing "cool".

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I don't know. Looks like someone's cool (or thinks they are).

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Or the subject or statement is......

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Another vote here for that's nonsense.

If the editing requirements of the image can be met by Lightroom then there's no advantage to further processing in Photoshop.

There are things that Lightroom can accomplish in a raw workflow that Photoshop (not ACR) can not. All editing in Lightroom remains 100% non-destructive.

Joe

BebuLamar

For me lightroom is sufficient for the majority of my pictures. I don't use lightroom only because I hate the cataloging feature.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

An image is finished, whenever you feel its finished, no matter in what program it was processed!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States