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May 11, 2020 10:54:22   #
Whuff Loc: Marshalltown, Iowa
 
In a previous topic where an O.P. asked what the best editing program was, a well respected and knowledgeable member said:

“ Lightroom is a good solution for editing raw and cataloging - and for processing 100s or 1000s of images at a time - but it does not and cannot turn out a finished image, at least not by creative director standards.“

This made me stop and wonder, since I don’t use Photoshop, why are my images that I mostly edit in Lightroom, with an occasional use of Nik filters or once in a while PS Elements, not finished? Of course, my standards don’t have to pass a creative director’s desk, so I simply edit to my own taste, but I’m wondering what more would I need to do in Photoshop, since apparently Lightroom “cannot turn out a finished image.”

Walt

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May 11, 2020 10:58:39   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Whuff wrote:
In a previous topic where an O.P. asked what the best editing program was, a well respected and knowledgeable member said:

“ Lightroom is a good solution for editing raw and cataloging - and for processing 100s or 1000s of images at a time - but it does not and cannot turn out a finished image, at least not by creative director standards.“

This made me stop and wonder, since I don’t use Photoshop, why are my images that I mostly edit in Lightroom, with an occasional use of Nik filters or once in a while PS Elements, not finished? Of course, my standards don’t have to pass a creative director’s desk, so I simply edit to my own taste, but I’m wondering what more would I need to do in Photoshop, since apparently Lightroom “cannot turn out a finished image.”

Walt
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As a former art director I'll be glad to show something. What type of subject would you like to see a Before and After in? Just as an example...


(Download)

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May 11, 2020 10:59:56   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
Whuff wrote:
In a previous topic where an O.P. asked what the best editing program was, a well respected and knowledgeable member said:

“ Lightroom is a good solution for editing raw and cataloging - and for processing 100s or 1000s of images at a time - but it does not and cannot turn out a finished image, at least not by creative director standards.“

This made me stop and wonder, since I don’t use Photoshop, why are my images that I mostly edit in Lightroom, with an occasional use of Nik filters or once in a while PS Elements, not finished? Of course, my standards don’t have to pass a creative director’s desk, so I simply edit to my own taste, but I’m wondering what more would I need to do in Photoshop, since apparently Lightroom “cannot turn out a finished image.”

Walt
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Not sure what the original responder meant, but my photos are, in my opinion, finished when I export them from Lightroom. I sometimes use a plugin with LR which still occurs prior to export.

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May 11, 2020 11:00:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Whuff wrote:
In a previous topic where an O.P. asked what the best editing program was, a well respected and knowledgeable member said:

“ Lightroom is a good solution for editing raw and cataloging - and for processing 100s or 1000s of images at a time - but it does not and cannot turn out a finished image, at least not by creative director standards.“

This made me stop and wonder, since I don’t use Photoshop, why are my images that I mostly edit in Lightroom, with an occasional use of Nik filters or once in a while PS Elements, not finished? Of course, my standards don’t have to pass a creative director’s desk, so I simply edit to my own taste, but I’m wondering what more would I need to do in Photoshop, since apparently Lightroom “cannot turn out a finished image.”

Walt
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For some, there is only one way, their way?

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May 11, 2020 11:00:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
To be blunt: nothing

There are things you can't do in LR. But, anyone who argues LR is not a cutting-edge digital editor simply displays an uninformed opinion of LR based on nothing factual.

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May 11, 2020 11:01:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DebAnn wrote:
Not sure what the original responder meant, but my photos are, in my opinion, finished when I export them from Lightroom. I sometimes use a plugin with LR which still occurs prior to export.


Mine are done when I'm finished editing.

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May 11, 2020 11:03:12   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
Longshadow wrote:


For some, there is only one way, their way?


Very true. I’m still trying to find my way...

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May 11, 2020 11:03:53   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
To be blunt: nothing


I agree with Paul 150 Percent.

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May 11, 2020 11:05:06   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
I agree with Paul 150 Percent.


Careful, I added some additional judgement to the comment ....

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May 11, 2020 11:08:22   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
I agree with Paul 150 Percent.


OK, Can you do what I did in the above example in LR?

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May 11, 2020 11:11:41   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Fotoartist wrote:
OK, Can you do what I did in the above example in LR?


I think so

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May 11, 2020 11:12:27   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Whuff wrote:
In a previous topic where an O.P. asked what the best editing program was, a well respected and knowledgeable member said:

“ Lightroom is a good solution for editing raw and cataloging - and for processing 100s or 1000s of images at a time - but it does not and cannot turn out a finished image, at least not by creative director standards.“

This made me stop and wonder, since I don’t use Photoshop, why are my images that I mostly edit in Lightroom, with an occasional use of Nik filters or once in a while PS Elements, not finished? Of course, my standards don’t have to pass a creative director’s desk, so I simply edit to my own taste, but I’m wondering what more would I need to do in Photoshop, since apparently Lightroom “cannot turn out a finished image.”

Walt
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Have you heard of the term "barrier to entry". Our PS professors pontificating ideas like "Lightroom is a good solution for editing raw and cataloging - and for processing 100s or 1000s of images at a time - but it does not and cannot turn out a finished image, at least not by creative director standards" simply seek to erect barriers of entry protecting the self-perceived relevance of expertise in PS, where in reality, their statement only demonstrates a clear lack of expertise in Lightroom, nothing more.

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May 11, 2020 11:12:45   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
OK, Can you do what I did in the above example in LR?


is that the same file for both photos...and what did you use and how did you do it?

I'm fascinated...

thanks for any insight...

chuck

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May 11, 2020 11:17:28   #
Tagrove
 
I think the original responder was demonstrating what Photoshop can do in addition to LR, e.g., compositing (if you can composite in LR, please tell me how). Otherwise, I agree with the other responders. You can do amazing editing of the file from your camera in LR and you are done.

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May 11, 2020 11:17:37   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
Elements has most of the edits needed to get that end result. The original criticism was an opinion, nothing more.

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