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Mar 2, 2020 05:58:31   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
dancers wrote:
if we get it and die, that's it......we get it and die! Natures way of reducing the number of humans on earth.


More like China’s way. To take over the world??

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Mar 2, 2020 08:26:46   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Bunko.T wrote:
More like China’s way. To take over the world??


While not impossible, that would seem to be at least premature.

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Mar 2, 2020 08:57:17   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Sunnely wrote:
Can't argue with you on basic hygiene practices. In fact, that is the #1 on the list on ways to prevent catching the bug, not only the flu but C****-**, as well.

As for media reporting, I have no facts to support my view, sadly, I believe the media will word on their headers numbers/data on c****av***s favorable to their "political" base or unfavorable to their "political" opponents. Not saying they're fudging the numbers or reporting inaccurate numbers, but they'll say it in a way it would look "good" or "bad," depending on their political alignment. I won't name names but I know which media outlets lean to one side over the other. The numbers are what they are. But they can be presented in a way which creates a lie. If I may add, sensationalism or fear/panic.

I am an apolitical person when it comes to figures, numbers, data. I also make sure that numbers reported are supported by facts/legit references and timely (unless referring to an old event) before accepting it. In the case of the c****av***s outbreak, I like to tease out or analyze numbers that the media report (regardless of its political view as long as it's accurate) and try to spot a possible trend or something that deserves closer look or monitoring. (I would have given that article from the New York Times 5 stars had the writers not spiced it with politics.) Like I said, no sensationalism, no fear-mongering, no stirring up panic. Just the facts, m'am. Just the facts.

Thanks.
Can't argue with you on basic hygiene practices. ... (show quote)



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Mar 2, 2020 11:29:52   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Sunday nights TV news highlighted hoarding of various products at the big box stores like Target - short video clip of empty shelves. A lack of sober, balanced public information and advisories certainly contributed to the present public panic and may be properly put at the feet of the Trump administration.

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Mar 2, 2020 12:28:02   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
John_F wrote:
Sunday nights TV news highlighted hoarding of various products at the big box stores like Target - short video clip of empty shelves. A lack of sober, balanced public information and advisories certainly contributed to the present public panic and may be properly put at the feet of the Trump administration.


Get a life. Your statement shows ignorance.

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Mar 2, 2020 13:24:37   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Ignore the noises from the attic - someone must have left the door open.

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Mar 2, 2020 14:30:01   #
Sunnely Loc: Wisconsin
 
Folks, we have been relegated to the Attic but that doesn't mean we will just go away.

For those of you who are interested in C****-** updates or may be just snooping around in the Attic and wondering what gem you can find, read on. Please and I kindly ask everyone to refrain from any political comments or any inflammatory remarks. We are in this together. Remember, c****av***s does not respect any political, religious, g****r, boundaries or any ideological affiliations. The only purpose of this post is to inform and educate. Nobody is being forced to believe or agree with the content.

UPDATE C****AV***S C****-**: March 2, 2020 @ 1:00 pm ET

NOTE: There is an ongoing investigation to determine more about this outbreak. This is a rapidly evolving situation.

HERE ARE THE NEW NUMBERS (INFECTED CASES AND DEATHS) ON C****-** AS OF MARCH 2, 2020 1:00 pm ET (Listed are countries that are making significant changes in number of cases/deaths and the US).

The c****av***s C****-** has now affected 75 (from 68 past 24 hours) countries and territories around the world and 1 international conveyance (the Diamond Princess cruise ship harbored in Yokohama, Japan). Countries reporting their first cases of C****-** in the past 24 hours are: Latvia (1), Senegal (1), Saudi Arabia (1), Tunisia (1), Jordan (1), Portugal (2), and Andorra (1). C****-** is now present in every continent except Antarctica.

WORLDWIDE: Infected cases: 90,302; Deaths: 3,087; Recovered: 45,705
CHINA: Infected cases: 80,026 (+202); Deaths: 2,912 (+42 past 24 hr); Recovered: 44,532
SOUTH KOREA: Infected cases: 4,335 (+599); Deaths: 26 (+5) Cases continue to rise in significant numbers. So. Korea has implemented aggressive testing for C****-** even having drive-through testing for convenience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jnV_BT_mw&t=9s
ITALY: Infected cases: 2,036 (+335); Deaths: 52 (+11). There are 335 new cases and 11 new deaths in Italy, for a total of 2,036 cases and 52 deaths to date. Among the 1,835 active cases, 908 (49%) are hospitalized, 166 of which (representing 9% of active cases) are in intensive care. Among the 201 closed cases, 149 (74%) have recovered, 52 (26%) have died. Most countries affected in Europe have travel connection with Italy.
IRAN: Infected cases: 1,501 (+523); Deaths: 66 (+12) Iranian top official, Seyed Mohammad Mir-Mohammadi, a member of Iran’s Expediency Discernment Council, dies of c****av***s. Sixty-six people have died from c****av***s and over 1,500 have been infected. Iran now with the highest number of deaths outside of China. (The actual numbers may even be higher.)
JAPAN: Infected cases: 274 (+11); Deaths: 6 (+)
GERMANY: Infected cases: 157 (27+); Deaths: 0
FRANCE: Infected cases: 130 (+30); Deaths: 2
SPAIN: Infected cases: 120 (+36); Deaths: 0 Total now exceeds 100.
UK: Infected cases: 40 (+7); Deaths: 0
IRAQ: Infected cases: 26 (+6); Deaths: 0
NORWAY: Infected cases: 25 (+6); Deaths: 0
NETHERLANDS: Infected cases: 10 (+8); Deaths: 0 Almost all 8 new cases almost all have traveled from northern Italy or are family contacts of a previous patient. [Cases include a 45-year-old woman in Helmond who returned from Lombardy, Italy.
BELGIUM: Infected cases: 8 (+6); Deaths: 0 All 6 new cases had returned from northern Italy.

USA: Infected cases: 92 (+17); Deaths: 2 (+1) There are 13 new cases and 1 death in the United States:
1 in Rhode Island, a teenager contact of the previous case. An additional contact is being tested. "All three people went on the same trip to Italy. This is precisely why we are being so aggressive in identifying contacts, ensuring monitoring, and testing people who are symptomatic."
3 in California (Santa Clara County), including a couple who has recently traveled to Egypt.
1 in Oregon: a contact of the first case in Oregon, recovering at home.
2 new cases (first) in Florida
1 in Washington State: a man in his 40s hospitalized in critical condition in Kirkland.
4 cases and 1 death in Washington State: a man in his 70s, in Kirkland, King County, with underlying health conditions.
1 case (first) in New York. Overnight, 3 new cases in the United States, including: The first in New Hampshire.

Here are some breaking news in the US:

5 people have died from the novel c****av***s in the US as cases nationwide surge https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/us-c****av***s-cases-monday/index.html

At least 6 cases linked to one facility – Kirkland, WA https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/us-c****av***s-cases-monday/index.html

Florida and Washington state issue emergency declarations - https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/us-c****av***s-cases-monday/index.html

More cases from coast to coast - https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/us-c****av***s-cases-monday/index.html

HERE ARE SOME STEPS TO TAKE TO AVOID GETTING INFECTED
When visiting areas with presumed ongoing community t***smission you should:
• Avoid contact with sick people, in particular those with a cough; Cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue, then throw the tissue in the trash. Stay home if you are sick.
• Avoid visiting markets and places where live or dead animals are handled;
• Follow general rules governing hand hygiene and food hygiene; Clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces using a regular household cleaning spray or wipe.
• Wash your hands with soap and water OR use an alcohol-based disinfectant solution before eating, after using the toilet and after any contact with animals. RULES FOR DISINFECTION AND HAND WASHING: Hand washing and disinfection is the key to preventing infection. You should wash your hands often and thoroughly with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. If soap and water are not available, you can also use alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. The v***s enters your body via your eyes, nose and mouth, so avoid touching them with unwashed hands.
• Avoid contact with animals, their excretions or droppings. However, according to CDC, at present there is no evidence that companion animals or pets such as cats and dogs have been infected or have spread 2019-nCoV.
• Use of face masks: Facemasks help prevent further spread of infection from those who are sick to others around them. However, face masks do not seem to be as effective in protecting those who are not infected. (If I may add, face mask will prevent you from touching your eyes, nose, mouth which are routes of t***smission for this v***s.)

Stay tuned for more Attic C****-** Updates. Spread the news that we're here.

Take care everybody.

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Mar 2, 2020 15:24:33   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
[quote=Sunnely]Folks, we have been relegated to the Attic but that doesn't mean we will just go away.

For those of you who are interested in C****-** updates or may be just snooping around in the Attic and wondering what gem you can find, read on. Please and I kindly ask everyone to refrain from any political comments or any inflammatory remarks. We are in this together. Remember, c****av***s does not respect any political, religious, g****r, boundaries or any ideological affiliations. The only purpose of this post is to inform and educate. Nobody is being forced to believe or agree with the content.

UPDATE C****AV***S C****-**: March 2, 2020 @ 1:00 pm ET

NOTE: There is an ongoing investigation to determine more about this outbreak. This is a rapidly evolving situation.

HERE ARE THE NEW NUMBERS (INFECTED CASES AND DEATHS) ON C****-** AS OF MARCH 2, 2020 1:00 pm ET (Listed are countries that are making significant changes in number of cases/deaths and the US).

The c****av***s C****-** has now affected 75 (from 68 past 24 hours) countries and territories around the world and 1 international conveyance (the Diamond Princess cruise ship harbored in Yokohama, Japan). Countries reporting their first cases of C****-** in the past 24 hours are: Latvia (1), Senegal (1), Saudi Arabia (1), Tunisia (1), Jordan (1), Portugal (2), and Andorra (1). C****-** is now present in every continent except Antarctica.

WORLDWIDE: Infected cases: 89,081; Deaths: 3,057; Recovered: 45,156
CHINA: Infected cases: 80,026 (+202); Deaths: 2,912 (+42 past 24 hr); Recovered: 44,532
SOUTH KOREA: Infected cases: 4,335 (+599); Deaths: 26 (+5) Cases continue to rise in significant numbers. So. Korea has implemented aggressive testing for C****-** even having drive-through testing for convenience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jnV_BT_mw&t=9s
ITALY: Infected cases: 2,036 (+335); Deaths: 52 (+11). There are 335 new cases and 11 new deaths in Italy, for a total of 2,036 cases and 52 deaths to date. Among the 1,835 active cases, 908 (49%) are hospitalized, 166 of which (representing 9% of active cases) are in intensive care. Among the 201 closed cases, 149 (74%) have recovered, 52 (26%) have died. Most countries affected in Europe have travel connection with Italy.
IRAN: Infected cases: 1,501 (+523); Deaths: 66 (+12) Iranian top official, Seyed Mohammad Mir-Mohammadi, a member of Iran’s Expediency Discernment Council, dies of c****av***s. Sixty-six people have died from c****av***s and over 1,500 have been infected. Iran now with the highest number of deaths outside of China. (The actual numbers may even be higher.)
JAPAN: Infected cases: 274 (+11); Deaths: 6 (+)
GERMANY: Infected cases: 157 (27+); Deaths: 0
FRANCE: Infected cases: 130 (+30); Deaths: 2
SPAIN: Infected cases: 120 (+36); Deaths: 0 Total now exceeds 100.
UK: Infected cases: 40 (+7); Deaths: 0
IRAQ: Infected cases: 26 (+6); Deaths: 0
NORWAY: Infected cases: 25 (+6); Deaths: 0
NETHERLANDS: Infected cases: 10 (+8); Deaths: 0 Almost all 8 new cases almost all have traveled from northern Italy or are family contacts of a previous patient. [Cases include a 45-year-old woman in Helmond who returned from Lombardy, Italy.
BELGIUM: Infected cases: 8 (+6); Deaths: 0 All 6 new cases had returned from northern Italy.

USA: Infected cases: 92 (+17); Deaths: 2 (+1) There are 13 new cases and 1 death in the United States:
1 in Rhode Island, a teenager contact of the previous case. An additional contact is being tested. "All three people went on the same trip to Italy. This is precisely why we are being so aggressive in identifying contacts, ensuring monitoring, and testing people who are symptomatic."
3 in California (Santa Clara County), including a couple who has recently traveled to Egypt.
1 in Oregon: a contact of the first case in Oregon, recovering at home.
2 new cases (first) in Florida
1 in Washington State: a man in his 40s hospitalized in critical condition in Kirkland.
4 cases and 1 death in Washington State: a man in his 70s, in Kirkland, King County, with underlying health conditions.
1 case (first) in New York. Overnight, 3 new cases in the United States, including: The first in New Hampshire.

Here are some breaking news in the US:

At least 6 cases linked to one facility – Kirkland, WA https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/us-c****av***s-cases-monday/index.html

Florida and Washington state issue emergency declarations - https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/us-c****av***s-cases-monday/index.html

More cases from coast to coast - https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/us-c****av***s-cases-monday/index.html

HERE ARE SOME STEPS TO TAKE TO AVOID GETTING INFECTED
When visiting areas with presumed ongoing community t***smission you should:
• Avoid contact with sick people, in particular those with a cough; Cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue, then throw the tissue in the trash. Stay home if you are sick.
• Avoid visiting markets and places where live or dead animals are handled;
• Follow general rules governing hand hygiene and food hygiene; Clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces using a regular household cleaning spray or wipe.
• Wash your hands with soap and water OR use an alcohol-based disinfectant solution before eating, after using the toilet and after any contact with animals. RULES FOR DISINFECTION AND HAND WASHING: Hand washing and disinfection is the key to preventing infection. You should wash your hands often and thoroughly with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. If soap and water are not available, you can also use alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. The v***s enters your body via your eyes, nose and mouth, so avoid touching them with unwashed hands.
• Avoid contact with animals, their excretions or droppings. However, according to CDC, at present there is no evidence that companion animals or pets such as cats and dogs have been infected or have spread 2019-nCoV.
• Use of face masks: Facemasks help prevent further spread of infection from those who are sick to others around them. However, face masks do not seem to be as effective in protecting those who are not infected. (If I may add, face mask will prevent you from touching your eyes, nose, mouth which are routes of t***smission for this v***s.)

Stay tuned for more Attic C****-** Updates. Spread the news that we're here.

Take care everybody.[/quote]

The bottom line is, there is little one can do other that washing our hands often and keep your hands away from your face. And that is likely to do little if anything. It is a ride it out thing.

Think of all the places one goes that has lots and lots of people,Work, Restaurants, Schools, Community centers, Disneyland, Amusement parks, casinos, Airplanes, airports, grocery store, stores, etc. How does one know if the guy ahead of you has it and he pumped gas before you did, or the cook at the restaurant has it and coked your food. Ride it out and hope for the best.

This is beyond anything any of us can do. Just hope for a v*****e.

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Mar 2, 2020 15:39:44   #
Sunnely Loc: Wisconsin
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
The bottom line is, there is little one can do other that washing our hands often and keep your hands away from your face. And that is likely to do little if anything. It is a ride it out thing.

Think of all the places one goes that has lots and lots of people,Work, Restaurants, Schools, Community centers, Disneyland, Amusement parks, casinos, Airplanes, airports, grocery store, stores, etc. How does one know if the guy ahead of you has it and he pumped gas before you did, or the cook at the restaurant has it and coked your food. Ride it out and hope for the best.

This is beyond anything any of us can do. Just hope for a v*****e.
The bottom line is, there is little one can do oth... (show quote)


Yep! I h**e to sound so pessimistic but it may come to a point wherein a major city may have to be locked down to stop the spread.

BTW, how is the situation there in your neck of the wood? I heard there are 4 more deaths in WA. I am mainly concern for the elderly residents of the Life Care. They are the ones so vulnerable. We'll keep praying.

Keep us posted, please. Thanks.

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Mar 2, 2020 15:39:58   #
lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland
 
I purposely avoided injecting my political (and I assure you they are strong and heartfelt) into this discussion. Apparently others could not resist my admonitions to do likewise.
Just like the daily death count adds little clarity, assigning blame is equally non-productive. However, let’s contact our elected leaders and demand nonpartisan, honest, productive, open, and reportable evidence that steps are being taken to maximize preparedness for the p******c.

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Mar 2, 2020 15:47:03   #
Sunnely Loc: Wisconsin
 
lesdmd wrote:
I purposely avoided injecting my political (and I assure you they are strong and heartfelt) into this discussion. Apparently others could not resist my admonitions to do likewise.
Just like the daily death count adds little clarity, assigning blame is equally non-productive. However, let’s contact our elected leaders and demand nonpartisan, honest, productive, open, and reportable evidence that steps are being taken to maximize preparedness for the p******c.


All is well, lesmd.

Feel free to post, add comments, and other info on how our community members can better prepare to combat this v***s.

Thanks.

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Mar 2, 2020 15:49:45   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Sunnely wrote:
Yep! I h**e to sound so pessimistic but it may come to a point wherein a major city may have to be locked down to stop the spread.

BTW, how is the situation there in your neck of the wood? I heard there are 4 more deaths in WA. I am mainly concern for the elderly residents of the Life Care. They are the ones so vulnerable. We'll keep praying.

Keep us posted, please. Thanks.


Well, you have heard what is going on here, I expect there to be many more cases across the US. A good example is Casinos, we have them in Washington and Oregon. They go there by the thousands, then come in contact with you and me. Not a good situation to be in.

I am not convinced that locking down a city would do any good. It has a 14 day incubation period.

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Mar 2, 2020 15:57:46   #
Sunnely Loc: Wisconsin
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Well, you have heard what is going on here, I expect there to be many more cases across the US. A good example is Casinos, we have them in Washington and Oregon. They go there by the thousands, then come in contact with you and me. Not a good situation to be in.

I am not convinced that locking down a city would do any good. It has a 14 day incubation period.


Unfortunately, in this situation, homo sapiens by nature is a sociable species which doesn't help.

But, I am not easily deterred. I remain optimistic.

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Mar 2, 2020 16:08:32   #
Sunnely Loc: Wisconsin
 
Tip: Whether you are a frequent flyer or just an occasional one, you should know this especially now with the C****-** crisis. Keep a packet of lyzol wipes or other disinfectants in your hand carry and wipe away. I have been doing this way before C****-**.

https://www.businessinsider.com/dirtiest-parts-airplane-cbc-report-2018-10

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Mar 2, 2020 16:20:41   #
trainspotter Loc: Oregon
 
dancers wrote:
if we get it and die, that's it......we get it and die! Natures way of reducing the number of humans on earth.


Nature's way?.........I'd say the CHINESE.....it escaped/released.....from their country....we don't eat hummingbirds tongues or dog dix here.....

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