Architect1776 wrote:
We all have different levels of skill and vision.
I bet every photo posted here could be ripped apart.
Most all posted are way over cooked with approaching cartoon color and saturation.
But I enjoy them though not to my taste many others love them.
To each their own and judgement.
I admire your tolerance, but why can't you also extend it towards lovers of Leger's work?
BTW, I agree with you on the over cooked photos....
It doesn't matter if a bad photographer thinks they are good.
Hopefully in time they will look back and realize how bad they were.
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I can only speak for myself, but I see myself as being in the lower percentile of the photographers who post here. That is the main reason I am here, to learn from those more talented and skilled than I. That being said, I believe I am much better than I was 5 years ago or even 1 year ago. And to me that is what counts.
Many "bad" photographers simply don't know any better.....I used to think I was pretty good, but now I know better, especially when I look at some of my older photos. I"m now not sure that I am good, but I think I am improving.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
Rongnongno wrote:
A simple question...
It's not a simple question. But people have written books about similar subjects.
It all comes down to what level of narcissism/empathy they possess, and how they see themselves. It also has a lot to do with self-image, how in touch they are with reality, their state of mind, etc. Not a simple answer at all.
The reverse is also true - you see some good photographers who think they are bad.
I think its an interesting question.
Firstly if you post a photo on lets say...Flickr, effectively for the world to see....then in your mind it must be a pretty good photo.
However, given the amount of trash photos there are on Flickr(in my opinion)......and Im talking about pictures of the sea taken from under a parasol on the beach, a brick wall, maybe a bus , that its pretty obvious to any rational person that these arnt good photos and yet the photographer who posted them must have the opposite opinion.
What really winds me up is that most of these photos usually have literally hundreds of " faves" attached to them and that the photographer in question has literally thousands of followers who have deemed that the photo is worthy of a fave. Its just some sort of sycophantic exercise for people who need their egos massaging on a regular basis.
Rant over, but in answer to the question..........no idea!
Maybe because todays cameras make sharp and well exposed pictures. Isn't that the basic need for the casual camera user.
And then maybe It grows from there.
I don't think most amateur/hobbyist photographers look at themselves as bad photographers thinking they are good photographers. There may be some rare occasions, where some think they are pro level photographers. I try to get better each month. One thing is true. A better camera doesn't always make you a better photographer. It is the skills and knowledge that make you a good photographer. I'm a amateur/hobbyist, and have no intentions of ever becoming a pro level photographer. I'm not one of those bad photographers, who thinks I'm good. But, I don't think I'm terrible either. And, I don't own very expensive camera gear. All 3 of my cameras are 4 years old now. And are depreciating in value.
I think in the most basic sense, a bad photographer thinks they are good because they don’t understand the rules of art (yes, art has rules). Without that understanding, they are they are not really “seeing” what they produced. Also, they are told they are good photographers by people who see their work, praise it, but they in turn do not really understand what makes a good photograph.
Rongnongno wrote:
A simple question...
For many, the reason is because they suck at photography and are good at PP. They post good/great pics not knowing that they could have been better but their methods are unseen because of the layers of lipstick on their photos.
A second reason many times is because of PP and their "status"
Photo Artists often fall in this category. Their photo's look like crap but because they are processed well on good materials and in a gallery, they are thought of something they are not. For a good amount of them I wouldn't pay a buck to use as toilet paper.
Rongnongno wrote:
A simple question...
Your topic title looks like a statement rather than a question.
Rongnongno wrote:
A simple question...
Ron...I came across a study which showed that stupid people thought they were as intelligent as smart people. I remember it well because I have to deal with a relative who falls into this category. It only follows that at least some bad photographers would think that they are good. I mean, doesn't everybody want to think that what they produce is of merit?
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