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Dec 12, 2019 06:16:37   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Badgertale wrote:
Interested in opinions concerning the functionality between DSLR's and Mirror-less cameras. I would like to purchase a mirror-less camera but I am not sold on why. Many blogs tout the future of photography but I have not seen any compelling reasons as to why I would be better off with the future as apposed to what I have at the moment (D700x2 and D500). I mentioned in reply to someone in another post that I don't think the mirror-less cameras were "there" yet. I find that I really don't understand what I even meant by that.

I remember when buttons and dials were all the rage on stereo equipment. Then, that aesthetic was out and touch sensitive electronic stereo systems were "in." Now buttons, dials and switches are back...etc... Is is all aesthetics.

The latest and greatest in mirror-less technology does the same thing DSLR's do...just a slightly different way.

Thoughts, comments, concerns, burns and trolls welcome.
Interested in opinions concerning the functionalit... (show quote)

I think of cameras merely as tools. If I want an amp to power the speakers in my compact car, I prefer solid state over tubes. I don’t too hung up or dogmatic about it. On the other hand, equipment can be a source of enjoyment all by itself for those who love equipment. Nothing wrong with that. But cameras that shoot silently are fundamentally different from those that are loud when absolute silence is required. That is only one example. Another might be for IBIS when the lenses won’t fit any DSLR that offers it, or a need for a live histogram in the viewfinder. Others will have different reasons to pick a DSLR over mirrorless or vice versa for reasons other than style. To some a camera is a camera is a camera. Others may need a specific tool for a given job.

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Dec 12, 2019 06:23:44   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
billnikon wrote:
I would, if I were you, post the same question on google. There you will get more than you want in video's supporting both.
Let me remind you of something that is important, "it's not the equipment stupid, it's the photographer!"
I am not saying your stupid, it's just a saying.
If you are a good photographer, a DSLR or a mirrroless is going to perform well for you.
If your an amateur, you will still be an amateur regardless of which camera you use.


Which adds nothing to the discussion. His query was to the respective advantages of one system over the other. Yes, ultimately it’s the photographer, but while the photographer may be able to get the image with either system there may be reasons he’d choose one over the other.

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Dec 12, 2019 06:35:13   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I shoot both *SLR and "mirrorless". All of my cameras have optical viewfinders. I find the delay, no matter how slight, of the delay of EVF systems is a distraction.
--Bob
Badgertale wrote:
Interested in opinions concerning the functionality between DSLR's and Mirror-less cameras. I would like to purchase a mirror-less camera but I am not sold on why. Many blogs tout the future of photography but I have not seen any compelling reasons as to why I would be better off with the future as apposed to what I have at the moment (D700x2 and D500). I mentioned in reply to someone in another post that I don't think the mirror-less cameras were "there" yet. I find that I really don't understand what I even meant by that.

I remember when buttons and dials were all the rage on stereo equipment. Then, that aesthetic was out and touch sensitive electronic stereo systems were "in." Now buttons, dials and switches are back...etc... Is is all aesthetics.

The latest and greatest in mirror-less technology does the same thing DSLR's do...just a slightly different way.

Thoughts, comments, concerns, burns and trolls welcome.
Interested in opinions concerning the functionalit... (show quote)

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Dec 12, 2019 06:41:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Saying that mirrorless are the future might imply that they will be worth buying in the future. How good are they now, compared with DSLRs? See below.

https://www.lightstalking.com/considerations-mirrorless-cameras/
http://www.lightstalking.com/mirrorless-vs-dslr/
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/dslr-vs-mirrorless-cameras,news-17736.html
https://www.lightstalking.com/six-points-consider-transition-mirrorless-system/
http://www.diyphotography.net/love-breaks-sold-mirrorless-camera/
http://digital-photography-school.com/how-the-switch-from-dslr-to-mirrorless-changed-how-i-edit-photos/

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Dec 12, 2019 06:55:48   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Maybe a reminder is needed to pop the mirrorless balloon?
Myths about mirrorless cameras

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Dec 12, 2019 06:58:15   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
turp77 wrote:
I don’t plan to go mirror less any time soon. I have a D810 that feels great in my hands and it does every thing that I need it to do and am very pleased with it. I don’t believe in GAS. Case in point I upgraded from my D70s to my D3 in November of 2007 and bought my D300s in 2009 and used them until January of 2015. My D3 has 580,000+ actuations and the D300s has 90,000+ both on there original shutter. I just send them in for a CLA every 2 years, alternate years. When my D810 went in for a CLA I had to use my D3 and boy did it feel great like an old friend. I wouldn’t mind having a D850 and I can afford it but will it make me a better photographer. No! I have some fantastic pictures from all my cameras the D70s up.
I don’t plan to go mirror less any time soon. I h... (show quote)


This is the time that photographers do get GAS, especially if you can afford to buy what you want. I'm not a pro, but the cameras you own are still being used today. The first Nikon full frame camera I saw was a D700, in late 2008. I didn't know then, that the very first Nikon full frame camera was the D3, released the year before. I chose not to buy myself a Nikon D500 this Xmas. Even though I finally had saved the money for one. And the price is affordable. The camera was not going to immediately make me a better photographer. So, I invested in a new tripod, a Nikon FX lens for my DX camera, and extra memory cards for myself, and friends. I have already received these items from B&H Photo Shop. Maybe later, I'll get that D500. I overcame GAS this time around. But, it always creeps up on you, when you least expect it? Mirrorless cameras and DSLRs will coexist. The question is. How long will it be when DSLRs are eventually discontinued?

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Dec 12, 2019 07:29:56   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Which adds nothing to the discussion. His query was to the respective advantages of one system over the other. Yes, ultimately it’s the photographer, but while the photographer may be able to get the image with either system there may be reasons he’d choose one over the other.


So why don't you do that. List the advantages and disadvantages of both. Like I told him already, he can Google it and get all the info he wants. My post have information that would be helpful while yours was just another negative response with 0 help to the OP. Have u nothing better to do with your time, so sad.

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Dec 12, 2019 07:53:24   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
Badgertale wrote:
Interested in opinions concerning the functionality between DSLR's and Mirror-less cameras. I would like to purchase a mirror-less camera but I am not sold on why. Many blogs tout the future of photography but I have not seen any compelling reasons as to why I would be better off with the future as apposed to what I have at the moment (D700x2 and D500). I mentioned in reply to someone in another post that I don't think the mirror-less cameras were "there" yet. I find that I really don't understand what I even meant by that.

I remember when buttons and dials were all the rage on stereo equipment. Then, that aesthetic was out and touch sensitive electronic stereo systems were "in." Now buttons, dials and switches are back...etc... Is is all aesthetics.

The latest and greatest in mirror-less technology does the same thing DSLR's do...just a slightly different way.

Thoughts, comments, concerns, burns and trolls welcome.
Interested in opinions concerning the functionalit... (show quote)


I am using a Nikon D810 (11 lenses) and a Olympus E-M1 (8 lenses). Both have their purposes. If size and weight are not an issue, the Nikon is the “go to” and if it is an issue, the Olympus wins. Both systems are terrific and the IQ iis great. There are differences, of course, but I have used both to produce excellent results. The most important factor in making great images is the index finger on your right hand, and the processor that controls it.

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Dec 12, 2019 07:54:59   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I consider myself a practical person, perhaps I am not for others. You will see me advising forum members who want to update to consider if their cameras are doing what they want or if they lack the features they need in their photography. My experience has been that a majority of those who ask here for advise end up doing what they wanted to do regardless of advise.

First thing first, I predicted several years ago that the future of photography would be mirorless. Today a large group of professional photographers are using mirrorless cameras in their work. When you state that "a mirrorless camera does essentially what a dSLR does" you are only partially right. Mirrorless cameras are packed with technologies not present in dSLR bodies. Exposure is easier with a mirrorless camera and at least with my Olympus bodies night photography is as simple as it comes. Light and small are important selling points for mirrorless cameras.

You own two very good cameras from Nikon, the old D700 and the rather new D500. If both of those cameras serve your purpose when photographing I see no reasons in this world why you have to buy a mirrorless camera. Your comments about mirrorless bodies "not being there yet" are appropriate. AF tracking has been an area where mirrorless has struggled. I am not familiar with the new cameras that sport a hybrid system of AF with sensors to detect phase and contrast detection targets. Accurate focus tracking has been in the past a nightmare and the new cameras from what I know seem to be doing much better and these are all of the comments I can discuss at this time, I bet others are more knowledgeable than I am and can discuss that with you if AF tracking is an important part of your photography.

As we continue to grow older our priorities change and case in point is moving around all day with heavy dSLR bodies and lenses specially in the field. In that respect mirrorless bodies are a godsend. Image quality is simply superb or otherwise professionals would not be using them.
In my case I own dSLR cameras and mirrorless Olympus bodies and I find that I am using more my small cameras than the dSLR bodies and lenses. I think that each one of us should keep on using what makes us comfortable.

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Dec 12, 2019 07:59:13   #
agillot
 
my friend bought one , he went from a nik 7200 to a nik mirror less .when you try one , you will buy one .

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Dec 12, 2019 08:19:08   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Badgertale wrote:
Interested in opinions concerning the functionality between DSLR's and Mirror-less cameras. I would like to purchase a mirror-less camera but I am not sold on why. Many blogs tout the future of photography but I have not seen any compelling reasons as to why I would be better off with the future as apposed to what I have at the moment (D700x2 and D500). I mentioned in reply to someone in another post that I don't think the mirror-less cameras were "there" yet. I find that I really don't understand what I even meant by that.

I remember when buttons and dials were all the rage on stereo equipment. Then, that aesthetic was out and touch sensitive electronic stereo systems were "in." Now buttons, dials and switches are back...etc... Is is all aesthetics.

The latest and greatest in mirror-less technology does the same thing DSLR's do...just a slightly different way.

Thoughts, comments, concerns, burns and trolls welcome.
Interested in opinions concerning the functionalit... (show quote)


Please read the following filtered through the I do not shoot (edit -insert movies) movies, sports or birds in flight filter:
I have a Canon 5DIV w/two "L" lenses
I also have a Canon RP w/RF 24-105 L F4 lens.
I have large hands, but I do not use the grip extension that was provided with the RP body. What a waste.
While the 5DIV is a wonderful camera, on any given day I will pick up the RP/RF lens when heading out the door.
Though I can't provide any proof, I suspect that I get just as many keepers with one as with the other.
Remember, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.
I do suspect that you will convince yourself once you have lived with the RP/RF lens (or Nikon, Sony) for a week.
Once Canon comes out with their "Pro Model" mirrorless body I will fully migrate to their mirrorless "system", and sell the 7D, 6D & 5DIV bodies, and lenses.
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

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Dec 12, 2019 08:28:57   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
billnikon wrote:
So why don't you do that. List the advantages and disadvantages of both. Like I told him already, he can Google it and get all the info he wants. My post have information that would be helpful while yours was just another negative response with 0 help to the OP. Have u nothing better to do with your time, so sad.


I already did. And I find your posts are usually a waste of time. Yep, telling him to google it, that was really helpful.

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Dec 12, 2019 08:32:10   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I already did. And I find your posts are usually a waste of time. Yep, telling him to google it, that was really helpful.


My advice is the best advice I have seen so far.

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Dec 12, 2019 08:35:49   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Badgertale wrote:
Interested in opinions concerning the functionality between DSLR's and Mirror-less cameras. I would like to purchase a mirror-less camera but I am not sold on why. Many blogs tout the future of photography but I have not seen any compelling reasons as to why I would be better off with the future as apposed to what I have at the moment (D700x2 and D500). I mentioned in reply to someone in another post that I don't think the mirror-less cameras were "there" yet. I find that I really don't understand what I even meant by that.

I remember when buttons and dials were all the rage on stereo equipment. Then, that aesthetic was out and touch sensitive electronic stereo systems were "in." Now buttons, dials and switches are back...etc... Is is all aesthetics.

The latest and greatest in mirror-less technology does the same thing DSLR's do...just a slightly different way.

Thoughts, comments, concerns, burns and trolls welcome.
Interested in opinions concerning the functionalit... (show quote)


Badgertale,
Cameras are tools. Each camera is different and each camera is designed with a set of uses in mind. So the "functionality" of mirrorless vs. DSLR is going to depend on what job you are trying to accomplish.
To illustrate, it is impossible to list the generic advantages of the "functionality" of a claw hammer vs. a ball-peen hammer without knowing whether you are framing a house or shaping a sheet of copper.
So what do you want to do with your camera?

Each of the advantages and disadvantages listed are situationally dependent. Weight is an advantage, only if it is an issue for you. Sharpness is an advantage, only if sharpness is important to what you are doing (some people deliberately take fuzzy shots as a style), etc, etc...

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Dec 12, 2019 08:42:12   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When you measure the ingredients of success, how much does the mirror count?

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