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Oct 4, 2021 06:06:14   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
jbgs wrote:
I had envisioned this differently than how it ended up. I was trying to have the plane in focus but have a motion blur of the background so to show the movement of the plane. I realize now that my settings were way off 1/1600 sec f/14 135mm ISO 1000. I know I should have been close to f5.6 since that was the lens I was using and yes I know an f2.8 would have been better but I did not have that glass with me. I was trying to pan with the plane so I know I did not need to be set at 1/1600 sec. I guess all these mistakes are just from my inexperience, I mean that was the first time I took pictures at an airshow. Rather than making excuses I would like to know what I should do differently for next time.
I had envisioned this differently than how it ende... (show quote)


Around 1/100 shutter speed and then pan with the subject moving as perpendicular to your position as possible will accomplish what you have in mind.
In the photo you sampled, the plane is moving about 45 degrees relative to you. That won't do for panning. neither the plane nor the background will be sharp and also not blurred enough to be artistic.

To practice panning, shoot a circuit motor racing. The cars will pass the same way over and over so that will help with repetition and finding the best setting.

When i pan, i would choose a prominent feature with a good contrast in the subject and keep my focus point on that feature as i pan & shoot. In cars, a good aiming point is the side mirror.

example here:



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Oct 4, 2021 18:10:18   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Wallen wrote:
Around 1/100 shutter speed and then pan with the subject moving as perpendicular to your position as possible will accomplish what you have in mind.
In the photo you sampled, the plane is moving about 45 degrees relative to you. That won't do for panning. neither the plane nor the background will be sharp and also not blurred enough to be artistic.

To practice panning, shoot a circuit motor racing. The cars will pass the same way over and over so that will help with repetition and finding the best setting.

When i pan, i would choose a prominent feature with a good contrast in the subject and keep my focus point on that feature as i pan & shoot. In cars, a good aiming point is the side mirror.

example here:
Around 1/100 shutter speed and then pan with the s... (show quote)


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Oct 20, 2021 07:35:18   #
coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA
 
You need to shoot at a much slower shutter speeds and heel a steady hand when you pan.
Shooting fast moving jets you may get away with 1/250th but slower would be better.
I photograph a Nan Chang formation flying team. Keeping the planes in focus and capturing the props in motion is a challenge.

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Nov 3, 2021 13:08:46   #
MyPharo Loc: New Jersey
 
Hello
Your photo is very good actuality. It just needed some minor tweaking with photoshop.
What I would have done to shoot this photo. I think maybe F8 to F12 and I think that the 1/1600 was not bad I might have tried maybe 1/ 1200 . Not sure what camera you have. But I would have done the Pan with the jet as you say you did and but I would have used a burst shot 10 fps. Here is the photo that I opened in Photoshop using the raw filter and made some basic adjustments and then use the details section to clean up the noise . I also included a crop version as I think the jet is the focus of the photo . I always think that people have their own concept of a good photo or not .. Good does not mean great .. But Good is good. Still better than a bad photo. I think you did very good on this shot .. If you have photoshop you can change the sky also to add better over all look to the photos you shoot . I did not change the photo other than to make some minor adjustments for you to see its not a bad photo . Good luck in the future shoots .





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Nov 3, 2021 13:46:48   #
jbgs
 
MyPharo wrote:
Hello
Your photo is very good actuality. It just needed some minor tweaking with photoshop.
What I would have done to shoot this photo. I think maybe F8 to F12 and I think that the 1/1600 was not bad I might have tried maybe 1/ 1200 . Not sure what camera you have. But I would have done the Pan with the jet as you say you did and but I would have used a burst shot 10 fps. Here is the photo that I opened in Photoshop using the raw filter and made some basic adjustments and then use the details section to clean up the noise . I also included a crop version as I think the jet is the focus of the photo . I always think that people have their own concept of a good photo or not .. Good does not mean great .. But Good is good. Still better than a bad photo. I think you did very good on this shot .. If you have photoshop you can change the sky also to add better over all look to the photos you shoot . I did not change the photo other than to make some minor adjustments for you to see its not a bad photo . Good luck in the future shoots .
Hello br Your photo is very good actuality. It jus... (show quote)


This photo was shot on my D7000 well before getting into Nikon Z cameras. Thank you for saying it was a good shot, I guess I am just a bit let down with my result. It's not quite what I was thinking when taking the shot. All I know is I need more practice.

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Nov 3, 2021 15:19:33   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
MyPharo wrote:
Hello
Your photo is very good actuality. It just needed some minor tweaking with photoshop.
What I would have done to shoot this photo. I think maybe F8 to F12 and I think that the 1/1600 was not bad I might have tried maybe 1/ 1200 . Not sure what camera you have. But I would have done the Pan with the jet as you say you did and but I would have used a burst shot 10 fps. Here is the photo that I opened in Photoshop using the raw filter and made some basic adjustments and then use the details section to clean up the noise . I also included a crop version as I think the jet is the focus of the photo . I always think that people have their own concept of a good photo or not .. Good does not mean great .. But Good is good. Still better than a bad photo. I think you did very good on this shot .. If you have photoshop you can change the sky also to add better over all look to the photos you shoot . I did not change the photo other than to make some minor adjustments for you to see its not a bad photo . Good luck in the future shoots .
Hello br Your photo is very good actuality. It jus... (show quote)


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Dec 2, 2021 11:07:09   #
Bolthead Loc: PA
 
This can easily be done, post processing, using Photoshop and the motion blur filter

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Dec 2, 2021 14:18:51   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
jbgs wrote:
This photo was shot on my D7000 well before getting into Nikon Z cameras. Thank you for saying it was a good shot, I guess I am just a bit let down with my result. It's not quite what I was thinking when taking the shot. All I know is I need more practice.


Plenty of good recommendation in the thread.
There were also mentions of editing in Photoshop.

This is just one of many ways your photo may look if edited in PS:


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Dec 2, 2021 15:20:50   #
jbgs
 
Now that is how I had envisioned this shot, Thank You

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Dec 2, 2021 15:26:28   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Wallen wrote:
Plenty of good recommendation in the thread.
There were also mentions of editing in Photoshop.

This is just one of many ways your photo may look if edited in PS:


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May 15, 2022 18:52:37   #
PhotoSnapper Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
 
My suggestion is you could have set the camera to Aperture Priority at ISO 100 and set the aperture a
t a low f-stop. Then you could have panned the moving plan. That would give you a lower f stop and possibly have given you less depth of field behind the plane. If it is important for you to save the picture with the background blurred (that is if you will lose money because it came out wrong), you can - in post-processing - lightly blur the background, leaving the plane and everything in front of it in focus. Photography purists believe this is cheating. But it can be done.

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