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Nov 27, 2019 19:03:59   #
jbgs
 
I had envisioned this differently than how it ended up. I was trying to have the plane in focus but have a motion blur of the background so to show the movement of the plane. I realize now that my settings were way off 1/1600 sec f/14 135mm ISO 1000. I know I should have been close to f5.6 since that was the lens I was using and yes I know an f2.8 would have been better but I did not have that glass with me. I was trying to pan with the plane so I know I did not need to be set at 1/1600 sec. I guess all these mistakes are just from my inexperience, I mean that was the first time I took pictures at an airshow. Rather than making excuses I would like to know what I should do differently for next time.


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Nov 27, 2019 19:07:49   #
Vietnam Vet
 
Panning is all about setting your shutter speed. Try panning at 1/15 of a second and then set your f-stop and iso for proper exposure. That should give you a great starting point.

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Nov 27, 2019 19:12:57   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Your mistakes are ok, as long as the pilot didn't make any.

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Nov 27, 2019 19:13:19   #
jbgs
 
Thank you for the help and Thank you for the service.

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Nov 27, 2019 19:19:31   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Just go out and practice panning at different shutter speeds.
You may find higher shutter speeds (like 1/100 or faster) may be ok.
The main thing is to keep your motion smooth as you follow through.
I shoot in short bursts and keep the best one.
With your permission I can post some examples along the shutter speed used.

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Nov 27, 2019 19:21:56   #
jbgs
 
@RichardTaylor please do and please put your settings too.

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Nov 27, 2019 19:36:23   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
jbgs wrote:
@RichardTaylor please do and please put your settings too.


Thanks.
These were all shot at motor racing events. Usually with a long lens. For lenses that have IS/VR panning mode it would have been on.
I will just give the shutter speed as that is the most important thing.
Exif data is included with all the images.
Feel free to ask any questions.
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#1 @ 1/160
#1 @ 1/160...
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#2 @ 1/100
#2 @ 1/100...
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#3 @ 1/125
#3 @ 1/125...
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#4 @ 1/30 - I was not square on and shooting trackside with a 67mm lens on a full frame body..
#4 @ 1/30 - I was not square on and shooting track...
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#5 @ 1/80
#5 @ 1/80...
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Nov 27, 2019 19:47:31   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
I like how you’ve cropped the photos, and they are sharp. What camera, lens and settings are you shooting with?

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Nov 27, 2019 20:02:21   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
BrentHarder wrote:
I like how you’ve cropped the photos, and they are sharp. What camera, lens and settings are you shooting with?


According to the EFIX, he used an old 8mp Canon "EOS 350D DIGITAL" on #29 car.
Exposure Auto, 1/80, f/11.0, ISO 200

The Nissan above it:
Camera Canon EOS 5D 12mp
Dimensions 1318 × 900 JPEG
Exposure Auto, 1/30, f/20.0, ISO 50

Proof that it's not the camera, but the photographer!

Nice Shots!

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Nov 27, 2019 20:09:14   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
BrentHarder wrote:
I like how you’ve cropped the photos, and they are sharp. What camera, lens and settings are you shooting with?


Thanks. If they are not sharp I do not post them (content may dictate otherwise (rarely)). All have been sharpened wnen PPing (I shoot raw).

Most of these (except #4 & #5) were shot with a Canon mid range body (40D) and a Canon 100-400 lens, shutter speed around 1/125 for the racing shots. The aperture will depend on the lighting (I will usually be shooting at minimum native ISO), usually around f8 to f14 (sometimes it may go higher however I don't worry about that) . If you have a "clean" background the aperture doesn't matter that much as it will be blurred anyway.
Pic #4 was with a Canon 5D (the original) and a 24-105 kit lens. It was a a driver training day (only one car on the short track at a time) so there was no presure. Having complete freedom to move around the track (not just shooting from the spectator area) helps a lot (so long as your are safe (ie behind a barrier)). I used the day to practice my skills.

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Nov 27, 2019 20:11:45   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
ggab wrote:
According to the EFIX, he used an old 8mp Canon "EOS 350D DIGITAL" on #29 car.
Exposure Auto, 1/80, f/11.0, ISO 200

The Nissan above it:
Camera Canon EOS 5D 12mp
Dimensions 1318 × 900 JPEG
Exposure Auto, 1/30, f/20.0, ISO 50

Proof that it's not the camera, but the photographer!

Nice Shots!


Thanks.
It is a lot easier to get consistant results with better performing cameras.
Practice helps.
Edit - I forgot to mention - always shutter priority when doing these.

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Nov 27, 2019 20:47:21   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Just a note on "clean" backgrounds.

#6 not clean
#7 Clean.
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#6 - 1/125 @ f10
#6 - 1/125 @ f10...
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#7 - 1/125 @ f10
#7 - 1/125 @ f10...
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Nov 28, 2019 01:27:38   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
jbgs wrote:
I had envisioned this differently than how it ended up. I was trying to have the plane in focus but have a motion blur of the background so to show the movement of the plane. I realize now that my settings were way off 1/1600 sec f/14 135mm ISO 1000. I know I should have been close to f5.6 since that was the lens I was using and yes I know an f2.8 would have been better but I did not have that glass with me. I was trying to pan with the plane so I know I did not need to be set at 1/1600 sec. I guess all these mistakes are just from my inexperience, I mean that was the first time I took pictures at an airshow. Rather than making excuses I would like to know what I should do differently for next time.
I had envisioned this differently than how it ende... (show quote)

Continuous AF and practice.

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Nov 28, 2019 06:12:21   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Thanks.
It is a lot easier to get consistent results with better performing cameras.
Practice helps.
Edit - I forgot to mention - always shutter priority when doing these.


+ practice, practice, practice! I have found spots where I can shoot traffic on local roads (gives speeders a "jolt!") to practice and more practice. I need more practice than formal events can provide.

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Nov 28, 2019 06:54:10   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Thanks.
It is a lot easier to get consistant results with better performing cameras.
Practice helps.
Edit - I forgot to mention - always shutter priority when doing these.


People were panning during ye olden days of silver halide emulsions.

Skill is everything and equipment a near irrelevancy.

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