Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

It’s long been clear that Presidents can be impeached for “high crimes and misdemeanors” that are not actual violations of federal criminal law. In an oft-cited passage from Federalist No. 65, Alexander Hamilton wrote that impeachable offenses “are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.” They involve “the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust.” This, at the moment, is the core of the case against Donald Trump for his interactions with the President of Ukraine—that he abused his power by using taxpayer dollars as a tool to extract information potentially damaging to a political rival.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

It really depends on your point of view, Trump is brash, petulant, and quite unpredictable, people smarter than you and I put together have differing opinions of Trump, some saying that he has set this country back some 30 years, others saying that he is the greatest president in their lifetime, and I am talking about seasoned DC creatures that have been around as long as any of us.

I think that Trump has made it quite clear what US foreign policy has been, defend Europe and Asia against all harm, be the major contributor of financial aid to countries of the third world, focus on all but our own country as our economy is gutted, our deficits climb, and our politicians enjoy their cocktail parties....

I can see where Trump has been very upsetting to many of our so called allies, but maybe it was long past time that they should have been upset, so far I really see little damage and a great deal of progress in setting this country back on track. That does not mean that there are no longer pressing issues because there are and healthcare is certainly one of them and economic ine******y is another, but I don't see the democrats coming to the table with any feasible solutions that will not wreck the economy nor do I see any democrats capable or willing to deal with China in a fashion that levels the playing field.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Another way of looking at it is that he used his office to inquire about the potential abuse of office of the former Vice President of the United States. Just because Biden is running for office does not mean that his past actions can not be looked at by the current administration. Granted Trump in his way has not gone about it in a way that avoided controversy, but I am not so sure that the current democrat track can even begin to hold up. Read the article below and realize that the documents he speaks of are government documents, then also realize that the current investigation by Durham will lead to the Ukraine where the DNC and Clinton's campaign both were active developing the so called Dossier.

https://johnsolomonreports.com/in-midst-of-2016-e******n-state-department-saw-burisma-as-joe-bidens-issue-memos-show/

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

I read the article. Will comment later, but I will quote Bill Maher: "Why can't these politicians' kids get real jobs?"

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

And in this transcript is Taylor saying his only source of information is the New York Times.

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

You should have gone to school past the 8th grade.

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

Watch ANY news program other than Fox...ANY and you’ll be enlightened.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

Thanks for finally giving me an answer, and a thoughtful one!

I was just trying to get people to admit that they are impeaching Trump not because he committed any crime, but because they don't like what he does. Now whether he actually coerced the Ukraine President is a matter of someone's opinion and I don't feel like delving into that right now.

I do want to challenge you with one more question, though. If you think it was wrong for Trump to ask for a favor from Ukraine, do you also think it was wrong for Joe Biden to do the same?

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

Every once in a while Bill Maher says something laudable.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

Great find, Steverino!

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

I don't watch Fox at all. Not the cable show nor the local affliliate news, and I don't read them online except for an occasional article. Fox News, despite being the most watched cable news network, only averages about 1.5 million viewers at any given time. This works out to just one person in every 160 people in the U.S. Even in the prime-time slots they get much less than one-in-a-hundred.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Yeah, it's not like they lied for the past three years about "Russia Russia Russia!". This will turn out to be no different, questionable if they will get impeachment in the House because like the transcript says, the ambassadors only source of information regarding the president's motivation for withholding the aid was the New York Times.... Yeah, this is going well for you guys.

Angmo

Hmmmm. Well evidence shows money was sent regardless of Ukraine actions which was nothing. So that’s blown out of the water. Try again for the 43rd try In A row.

jcboy3

It wasn’t really a “quid pro quo” thing...I was an extortion thing.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

For once I would agree. Joe Biden openly threatened the Ukraine into firing the guy who was investigating his son's company. That is more extortion than it is a quid pro quo.