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Nov 6, 2019 16:37:28   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
"Acting ambassador says it was his ‘clear understanding’ U.S. military aid would not be sent until Ukraine pursued investigations that could help Trump"

Taylor will testify in public hearings next week.

"House investigators released a transcript Wednesday of the closed-door testimony of William B. Taylor Jr., the acting ambassador to Ukraine, who told lawmakers that it was his “clear understanding” that U.S. military aid would not be sent until that country pursued investigations that could politically benefit President Trump."

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Nov 6, 2019 16:48:31   #
jcboy3
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Acting ambassador says it was his ‘clear understanding’ U.S. military aid would not be sent until Ukraine pursued investigations that could help Trump"

Taylor will testify in public hearings next week.

"House investigators released a transcript Wednesday of the closed-door testimony of William B. Taylor Jr., the acting ambassador to Ukraine, who told lawmakers that it was his “clear understanding” that U.S. military aid would not be sent until that country pursued investigations that could politically benefit President Trump."
"Acting ambassador says it was his ‘clear und... (show quote)


This whole thing is like trying to take down the mob.

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Nov 6, 2019 16:49:59   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
jcboy3 wrote:
This whole thing is like trying to take down the mob.


Trump thinks he is above the law; just like most other thugs and criminals.

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Nov 6, 2019 17:33:39   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
If the Senate doesn’t stop this madness, there will be no stopping Trump’s continued abuse of power and disregard for the rule of law.
How many witnesses, what will it take?

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Nov 6, 2019 17:35:04   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Is "clear understanding" evidence? I for one, do not have a clear understanding of exactly what clear understanding means.

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Nov 6, 2019 17:46:40   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
boberic wrote:
Is "clear understanding" evidence? I for one, do not have a clear understanding of exactly what clear understanding means.


Watch the public hearings next week. You might be enlightened.

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Nov 6, 2019 18:36:03   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
If the Senate doesn’t stop this madness, there will be no stopping Trump’s continued abuse of power and disregard for the rule of law.
How many witnesses, what will it take?

You still haven't answered my question on another post after I described this "quid pro quo" thing in detail. Where exactly is the crime or wrongdoing?

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Nov 6, 2019 18:59:24   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Watch the public hearings next week. You might be enlightened.

Maybe ,maybe not. Even so, I think there needs to be CLEAR evidence of an illegal act, hard evidence. Not merely "I think he did it". There needs to be proof, not someones "clear understanding"? "I heard him say it--is not clear evidence of an impeachable offence. For something as serious as an impeachment there needs to be hard evidence. Clinton was impeached for perjury. He committed perjury on National television. Nixon covered up a buglary on tape. There was hard evidence. Mere opinion--"I think he did it" is opinion.

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Nov 6, 2019 19:19:52   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Steven Seward wrote:
You still haven't answered my question on another post after I described this "quid pro quo" thing in detail. Where exactly is the crime or wrongdoing?


It's called extortion.
Look it up.

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Nov 6, 2019 19:33:05   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Frank T wrote:
It's called extortion.
Look it up.

You've got to be kidding me, Frank. I'll give you ten bucks if the Democrats use "Extortion" as the grounds for their Articles of Impeachment.

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Nov 6, 2019 19:39:53   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Acting ambassador says it was his ‘clear understanding’ U.S. military aid would not be sent until Ukraine pursued investigations that could help Trump"

Taylor will testify in public hearings next week.

"House investigators released a transcript Wednesday of the closed-door testimony of William B. Taylor Jr., the acting ambassador to Ukraine, who told lawmakers that it was his “clear understanding” that U.S. military aid would not be sent until that country pursued investigations that could politically benefit President Trump."
"Acting ambassador says it was his ‘clear und... (show quote)


Nothing there, it was his understanding from talking to other folks, he had no first hand knowledge, of course that seems to matter little to you doorbells, Biden on the other hand made a video bragging of his qui pro quo, and now there are emails surfacing and phone logs showing his knowledge of the investigation of his son 1 month prior to his having the Ukrainian prosecutor fired, it shows during that period repeated phone calls to the Ukrainian president during the same time and state department correspondence to the Ambassador regarding Biden's son. All this information came from a FOIA release from the state department, now, if Biden was acting on behalf of Burisma when he had the Ukrainian prosecutor fired then Trump had every reason to ask for the investigation, even if Trump just had a legitimate reason to believe that Biden was dirty which we all know that he was then Trump still had a legitimate reason to ask, you folks will rue the day that you chose to go down this road.

There is news out there that is legitimate and news that you never see because the sources you consume will not report it to you....

https://johnsolomonreports.com/h****r-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

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Nov 6, 2019 19:45:40   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
boberic wrote:
Maybe ,maybe not. Even so, I think there needs to be CLEAR evidence of an illegal act, hard evidence. Not merely "I think he did it". There needs to be proof, not someones "clear understanding"? "I heard him say it--is not clear evidence of an impeachable offence. For something as serious as an impeachment there needs to be hard evidence. Clinton was impeached for perjury. He committed perjury on National television. Nixon covered up a buglary on tape. There was hard evidence. Mere opinion--"I think he did it" is opinion.
Maybe ,maybe not. Even so, I think there needs to... (show quote)


Not related to the current Trump inquiry, there is legal admissible evidence aside from “hard” evidence.
Many have been accused, dismissed, convicted, terminated, imprisoned based on “circumstantial” evidence.
“You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows” kind of thing.

So far, though testimony alone, there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence that Trump and his friends conspired to and threatened to withhold Congressional allocated monies from a foreign country in exchange for personal political gain related to a political rival. That is, at the very least abuse of power.
There will be more, but even so-called “hard evidence” will not dissuade the opinions of those immersed in the glory of Trump.

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Nov 6, 2019 19:52:14   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Not related to the current Trump inquiry, there is legal admissible evidence aside from “hard” evidence.
Many have been accused, dismissed, convicted, terminated, imprisoned based on “circumstantial” evidence.
“You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows” kind of thing.

So far, though testimony alone, there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence that Trump and his friends conspired to and threatened to withhold Congressional allocated monies from a foreign country in exchange for personal political gain related to a political rival. That is, at the very least abuse of power.
There will be more, but even so-called “hard evidence” will not dissuade the opinions of those immersed in the glory of Trump.
Not related to the current Trump inquiry, there is... (show quote)


Oh I wish I lived close to you because I would be willing to make a big bet with you how this will end.

Anyway, Baz says that in downtown Miami that you can find human feces pretty much the same as you can in San Francisco, it has been more than a year the last time I was in Miami but I don't remember tent cities, human feces, or needles littering the ground, can you set me straight on this?

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Nov 6, 2019 20:00:35   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Not related to the current Trump inquiry, there is legal admissible evidence aside from “hard” evidence.
Many have been accused, dismissed, convicted, terminated, imprisoned based on “circumstantial” evidence.
“You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows” kind of thing.

So far, though testimony alone, there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence that Trump and his friends conspired to and threatened to withhold Congressional allocated monies from a foreign country in exchange for personal political gain related to a political rival. That is, at the very least abuse of power.
There will be more, but even so-called “hard evidence” will not dissuade the opinions of those immersed in the glory of Trump.
Not related to the current Trump inquiry, there is... (show quote)

I'm starting to doubt anything you say because you keep avoiding answering my questions like the plague, or saying anything at all to me. I'm gonna try again:

Exactly what "crime" is Trump being accused of here? And don't try "abuse of power." Anybody can claim that against any past President or politician in history. That is an opinion, not an actual law. On top of that "threatening to withhold Congressional allocated monies" is also not a crime. Actually "withholding money" might be.

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Nov 6, 2019 20:05:11   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Oh I wish I lived close to you because I would be willing to make a big bet with you how this will end.

Anyway, Baz says that in downtown Miami that you can find human feces pretty much the same as you can in San Francisco, it has been more than a year the last time I was in Miami but I don't remember tent cities, human feces, or needles littering the ground, can you set me straight on this?


I never go downtown. I live and stay in West Kendall where I feel relatively safe.

Neither of us, or anybody else, knows the outcome at this point; but in my mind, this ends badly for the country. America will not be great again anytime soon.
There will later be a fight over the spoils, and the blame.

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