Reconvic wrote:
I think the only way you can compare crops is if you get the same capture with your D810. I have the D3200 and the D7100 and I KNOW that neither of them could compare.
Actually, the difference between the D810 is apparent, but generally not enormously different than the D7200 / D750. I typically take one camera / lens for a walk around near the house. I like your suggestion, same subject same time & light, both cameras. I actually have two identical lenses. Will give it a try. Thanks!
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Just so yeah know I had the D500 and it's NO comparison to the D850 when it comes to noise. In fact my D7200 handle noise better than the D500. I'm glad I bought the D850 and would never consider changing for the D500 even without the extra battery grip.
Yup...my sister has the D500 and comparing the same captures the D850 wins every time.
I think you would have been happier with the D500. I love mine and have no problem cropping . Of coarse with the 500 you really do not have to do that cropping. I really like seeing what I shoot when I shoot it and not having to for PS to see what I have.
quixdraw wrote:
Actually, the difference between the D810 is apparent, but generally not enormously different than the D7200 / D750. I typically take one camera / lens for a walk around near the house. I like your suggestion, same subject same time & light, both cameras. I actually have two identical lenses. Will give it a try. Thanks!
Ha...yup, Sally and I both have the D850s and Tamron G2 lenses and Sigma 600 Cs. We did comparisons of the Sigma and the Tammy with the D850s and the Tammy kicked the crap out of the Sig.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Just so yeah know I had the D500 and it's NO comparison to the D850 when it comes to noise. In fact my D7200 handle noise better than the D500. I'm glad I bought the D850 and would never consider changing for the D500 even without the extra battery grip.
Are you saying the D850 handles noise better than the D500 does?
According to the DxOMark scores, relatively speaking, noise is the area of 'weakness' for the D850.
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Bill_de wrote:
I would surely crop, but not nearly so much.
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Was just trying to show how much you can crop....regularly NO, not so much!
That crop works a treat! That is pretty much what I was talking about.
Reconvic wrote:
It's well established here that the Nikon D850 is a great camera for varied reasons. I bought it "in a fever" and use it only for wildlife and birding, cropping 95% of my photos. I must say that after buying the grip for the extra fps, the xqd cards, xqd card converter (4000 bucks later) that I had regret that I didn't get the D500 (a crop camera) for less than half the money. The 850 crops out at 19 mps and the D500 20mps.
Today at the wetlands my wife was taking a shot of a Banded Kingfisher (with the 850 and the Tamron 600 G2) and I was laughing cuz it was too far out!
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The 850 and 500 deliver equal MP in the scenario you
describe. For a stationary subject, that makes them
alike. But for an action subject, the 850 is better cuz
with the 500 you're stuck with the crop at the time of
exposure while with the 850 you get to choose just
where the margins will be. IOW, with the 500 your
subject might be flying into the border of the frame
but the 850 has recorded a wider field, so you place
the crop format frame more favorably. IOOW, never
engage "crop mode" for action subjects. Crop in post.
User ID wrote:
The 850 and 500 deliver equal MP in the scenario you
describe. For a stationary subject, that makes them
alike. But for an action subject, the 850 is better cuz
with the 500 you're stuck with the crop at the time of
exposure while with the 850 you get to choose just
where the margins will be. IOW, with the 500 your
subject might be flying into the border of the frame
but the 850 has recorded a wider field, so you place
the crop format frame more favorably. IOOW, never
engage "crop mode". Crop in post.
The 850 and 500 deliver equal MP in the scenario y... (
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Thanks User Id for that clarification!!
User ID wrote:
The 850 and 500 deliver equal MP in the scenario you
describe. For a stationary subject, that makes them
alike. But for an action subject, the 850 is better cuz
with the 500 you're stuck with the crop at the time of
exposure while with the 850 you get to choose just
where the margins will be. IOW, with the 500 your
subject might be flying into the border of the frame
but the 850 has recorded a wider field, so you place
the crop format frame more favorably. IOOW, never
engage "crop mode" for action subjects. Crop in post.
The 850 and 500 deliver equal MP in the scenario y... (
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I know a wedding shooter who shoots all the quick unposed grab shots WIDE angle - mostly without using the viewfinder - crops later in post so as to make sure he GETS the shot ! - of course using a high MP full frame. It sure makes composition a bit easier in the end.
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Sounds logical ….well said Larry.
Regardless of what camera/lens combo you use, filling the frame beats cropping every day of the week.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Reconvic wrote:
It's well established here that the Nikon D850 is a great camera for varied reasons. I bought it "in a fever" and use it only for wildlife and birding, cropping 95% of my photos. I must say that after buying the grip for the extra fps, the xqd cards, xqd card converter (4000 bucks later) that I had regret that I didn't get the D500 (a crop camera) for less than half the money. The 850 crops out at 19 mps and the D500 20mps.
Today at the wetlands my wife was taking a shot of a Banded Kingfisher (with the 850 and the Tamron 600 G2) and I was laughing cuz it was too far out!
It's well established here that the Nikon D850 is ... (
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OH, how I wish everyone owned a Nikon 200-500 on a D500.
So how does the saying about the photographer being more important than the equipment fit into this?
Would a similar crop from a D3300 look as good?
rehess wrote:
Are you saying the D850 handles noise better than the D500 does?
According to the DxOMark scores, relatively speaking, noise is the area of 'weakness' for the D850.
Absolutely, ask anyone that owns the D850 and uses it for wildlife. Even my D7200 faired better than the D500 for noise. This of coarse is all done in the field and not some laboratory
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