This Is Our Own Fault! (Page 6): I absolutely agree that The Constitution was not well thought out. But it is black ink language on paper or really parchment. It is what we have. There...

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

LWW wrote:

Read a book, preferably the Federalist Papers.

I absolutely agree that The Constitution was not well thought out. But it is black ink language on paper or really parchment. It is what we have. There are many ways we can interpret what is written. That is sometimes we use those funny little marks....what do you call 'em....punctuation!

jcboy3

LWW wrote:

Read a book, preferably the Federalist Papers.

So it's okay to interpret the Constitution based on documents that are over 300 years old, reflecting on a society that is long gone. And based in a time of s***ery, suppression, and exploitation. They had no respect for "The People", just their privileged and repressive white boy clan.

Then it's okay to interpret the Constitution based on the needs of the people that are living here now. Especially if those interpretations are intended to prevent suppression and exploitation.

A literal Constitution isn't worth the paper it was written on.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

jcboy3 wrote:

So it's okay to interpret the Constitution based o... (show quote)

The FP was written by the authors of the COTUS and was well thought out in great detail about what it all meant so that interpretation wasn’t needed.

A means of future generations amending it was also included.

You really should read both.

jcboy3

LWW wrote:

The FP was written by the authors of the COTUS and was well thought out in great detail about what it all meant so that interpretation wasn’t needed.

A means of future generations amending it was also included.

You really should read both.

I have read both. It was not well thought out with respect to the rights of the people. Of course, if you aren't a member of a subjected class, you probably think everything is okay.

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

LWW wrote:

Read a book, preferably the Federalist Papers.

Very few people have social conscience. I wanted to end the chatter at work and on the bus and etc. hand wringing won't help anyone. As citizens we have a responsibility to care about another. In a small context of care, we at least should be civil to each other. Most people are not and cannot understand why other people don't associate with them.

I believe that Mahatma Ghandi said:
Be the change you wish to see in the World.

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

Bazbo wrote:

Can you specifically cite where in Heller where Sc... (show quote)

What you are looking for was covered in the Miller decision, not Heller.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

jcboy3 wrote:

I have read both. It was not well thought out with respect to the rights of the people. Of course, if you aren't a member of a subjected class, you probably think everything is okay.

Sorry, but your post history shows an incredible ignorance of both topics ... and I am a member of more than one subjected class.

anotherview Loc: California

Ditto.

LWW wrote:

Read a book, preferably the Federalist Papers.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

WNYShooter wrote:

What you are looking for was covered in the Miller decision, not Heller.

I was trying to remember the case.

But, yes, it is well established that military weapons are protected under the second.

jcboy3

LWW wrote:

Sorry, but your post history shows an incredible ignorance of both topics ... and I am a member of more than one subjected class.

If you think my post history is a history test, you are deluded.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

jcboy3 wrote:

If you think my post history is a history test, you are deluded.

Then you shouldn't pontificate on subjects about which you are admittedly uninformed.

A more logical path forward for you would be to become more learned on said subjects.

Might I suggest reading books?

jcboy3

LWW wrote:

Then you shouldn't pontificate on subjects about which you are admittedly uninformed.

A more logical path forward for you would be to become more learned on said subjects.

Might I suggest reading books?

Why do you lie?

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

jcboy3 wrote:

Why do you lie?

You can't even comprehend your own excuses.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

Scruples wrote:

I absolutely agree that The Constitution was not well thought out. But it is black ink language on paper or really parchment. It is what we have. There are many ways we can interpret what is written. That is sometimes we use those funny little marks....what do you call 'em....punctuation!

The Constitution is not to be interpreted. It is taken as written, not made to say what you want it to.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

Scruples wrote:

Very few people have social conscience. I wanted to end the chatter at work and on the bus and etc. hand wringing won't help anyone. As citizens we have a responsibility to care about another. In a small context of care, we at least should be civil to each other. Most people are not and cannot understand why other people don't associate with them.

I believe that Mahatma Ghandi said:
Be the change you wish to see in the World.

Which means you have the ability to change yourself to be an example, not to make anyone else change to meet your needs.