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Aug 15, 2019 07:40:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Collhar wrote:
Pollock????? Are you some kind of stupid???


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock
Or did you jump to some other conclusion???

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Aug 15, 2019 07:43:06   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
CO wrote:
... For example, I use precision measuring instruments in a machine shop. Calipers are used extensively for making measurements. The least accurate are made of plastic and would not be considered by people making a living as a machinist. Only a hobbyist would consider those. The best ones are stainless steel and even have carbide jaws for wear resistance. The best ones even have digital readouts.


I have used both calipers like that. And you can buy the plastic one significantly cheaper than the price on the image.
But what struck me was something I had not considered previously. The plastic one looks a lot like a slide rule I used to have.

So I immediately thought that there would probably be a market for a stainless digital slide rule.

Fits into category 12.

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Aug 15, 2019 07:46:36   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
While I believe the OP must have been bored, at least when I read number 12 it put a smile on my face. Maybe that was the intent of the post in the first place.

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Aug 15, 2019 07:56:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 

Yup. Some people worry about things that don't need worrying.

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Aug 15, 2019 08:17:38   #
srt101fan
 
HOHIMER wrote:
Although difficult, I abstain from comment as a result of the wisdom imparted to me by my dear departed Mother.


Something tells me I agree with you and your mother....😊

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Aug 15, 2019 08:19:50   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Oooook.

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Aug 15, 2019 08:48:05   #
BebuLamar
 
Wallen wrote:
Correct, but those are the real written meanings found in books, not the loose definitions people make up to fit their own agenda.


I do agree with your definitions but I think many do not agree. Besides there is no definition of a professional gear except that when a manufacturer wants to label them as such.
I must say that while I agree with your definitions I can't prove or be sure that they are correct. I don't know enough about the English language to do so.

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Aug 15, 2019 09:00:37   #
Brokenland
 
Wallen wrote:
A lot of Uglies (hehe) take sides on just about any topic. The worst happens when it is about professional gear and processing.
I might be mistaken but i believe we should define the terms precisely so everyone would be looking at the same apple.

A. A professional is someone who earns their living from their activity.
It does not always mean they are experts in their careers, just that they are earning out of it.
An attitude or way that directly improves the activity

B. An amateur does things for the love of doing it. They do not get paid and although it also means incompetent, many amateurs are far better and knowledgeable than some professionals.

C. Hobbyist are those who endure serious leisure pursuit having no significant professional counterpart and being too poorly remunerated to constitute a livelihood. Hobbies are usually, but not always, practiced primarily for interest and enjoyment, rather than financial reward.


Well if we look at the above meanings, then:
1. There is no such thing as a hobby photographer as photography is a career choice.
2. There is no limit to what can be called a professional camera. Professional is the person and whatever that person is using is a professional tool. Is there an entry level hammer? or an entry level phone?
3. If we look at boxers, we can also see that being a professional does not always mean you get better the longer you are into it.
4. If someone get paid, he is no longer an amateur but either good or bad professional
5. Professional only means there is money involved. An amateur racer, basketball player and so on, do not get a power up just because he signs a contract.
6. Professional only means there is money involved. The more he can rely on it as a primary means of living then the more professional he gets.
7. A Celphone is a professional camera when used by Pollock.
8. A Nikon F is an amature camera
9. The Canon 7D is expensive
10. Just like fish and meat, some like it raw, some like it scooc
11. Neutral grey will join the nearest software.
12. If you are reading this, perhaps you now understand the absurdity of some of the things being discussed.

We are all in the same boat, let us learn together instead of butting heads and rowing our own way...

Hedgehogs in all their prickly glory can sit side by side together in the same den because they are family.
A lot of Uglies (hehe) take sides on just about an... (show quote)


Heir Heir that's why I'll forever be known as a "skilled" person with a camera, that takes my photography hobby very seriously.

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Aug 15, 2019 09:10:11   #
rick_n_wv Loc: Charleston WV
 
Don't really have an opinion. Don't have a large enough check book or I would more stuff. But then life is to short worry about what others think when the light is good, the time is available or someone want you take their picture. On the other hand you just a fight with spouse, kids/grand kids (or for some of us great grand kids) are acting up or you are feeling sick, grouchy or achy .....

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Aug 15, 2019 10:35:53   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
Longshadow wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock
Or did you jump to some other conclusion???


Never heard of him. I checked out your link. No mention of cell phones. How did you arrive at your conclusion??

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Aug 15, 2019 11:21:36   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
*I* believe A, B & C are reasonable.
The rest was just poking a stick in the cage.
Whether or not you posted, did you react? Did you react at your own reaction?
Proud to be catfished? Whether or not you were?

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Aug 15, 2019 11:24:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Collhar wrote:
Never heard of him. I checked out your link. No mention of cell phones. How did you arrive at your conclusion??

I Googled "Pollock"...
(I don't think he used them at the time, but may have if they were available (or he lived in this time).)

My point was the reference was not derogatory.

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Aug 15, 2019 11:31:30   #
CO
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I have used both calipers like that. And you can buy the plastic one significantly cheaper than the price on the image.
But what struck me was something I had not considered previously. The plastic one looks a lot like a slide rule I used to have.

So I immediately thought that there would probably be a market for a stainless digital slide rule.

Fits into category 12.


The plastic one in the photo is a vernier caliper. Those are available in stainless steel also. Machinists normally use dial calipers or digital calipers.

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Aug 15, 2019 13:06:56   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
An example is someone who's job it is to take head shots all day for police mugshots, driver's licenses, employee I.D. badges or the like, - which qualifies such person as a professional photographer. A very common photography job, in fact. However competent they may be at their job, one should not assume that they are also good at other aspects of photography. They may not even have any interest in photography outside of what they do on the job.
When someone states, "I'm a professional photographer", that alone doesn't really mean they have a broad expertise in all things photography.

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Aug 15, 2019 14:19:09   #
Anhanga Brasil Loc: Cabo Frio - Brazil
 
I loved it and fully agree. Very good !

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