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Aug 8, 2019 22:42:01   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
Haydon wrote:
I see this as a huge opportunity for memory makers. How long will it take to fill storage :)


Without a doubt.

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Aug 9, 2019 07:07:09   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
Bill P wrote:
You are so right, but tell that to a lot of people.

Sad but true.


There is nothing sad about the progression of cell phons and their ability to take good pictures. . What is sad is the constant harping that DSLR's are the only game in town.

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Aug 9, 2019 08:03:03   #
joderale Loc: Pensacola, Florida
 
Collhar wrote:
There is nothing sad about the progression of cell phons and their ability to take good pictures. . What is sad is the constant harping that DSLR's are the only game in town.


I agree. It is amazing to me that so many pixels and their connections can be crammed into such a tiny sensor.
If that technology was moved to a full frame sensor (and I'm sure it will be), the dynamic range could be huge. Dont worry, storage space and download speed will increase accordingly; it always has.

I've thought about an idea where there are three or more pixels occupying the same area currently occupied by one pixel, each gathering light at a different exposure, creating an HDR with one shot. I'm sure that is coming.

One day we'll look back and say, "Remember when a photo was only 30 MP?"

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Aug 9, 2019 08:24:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MP aren't everything. Let's see how good the pictures are.

That link might get this sent to the Links section.

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Aug 9, 2019 08:36:09   #
Canisdirus
 
You can put a ferrari engine in a volkswagen bug ....
But you haven't recreated a ferrari.

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Aug 9, 2019 08:53:32   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Without a lens capable of very high resolution, all those extra pixels mean nothing. They only produce bigger files, with a lot of redundant pixels not doing anything positive for the image.


And when you think about "data caps" and charges for high data flow, sending and receiving those files might just make more money for the providers....they will sell a lot of them, probably heavily subsidized, or even free with "the plan", but they will get your money!!!!

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Aug 9, 2019 08:55:21   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
OMG So many likes on my selfie -- thx y'all -- and all you vegans telling me what type of lettuce is showing in my teeth. yumyum

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Aug 9, 2019 09:09:39   #
ELNikkor
 
And, multiply that 108mp times the ratio of 1 2/3 sensor to 35mm FF, and you have....

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Aug 9, 2019 09:12:38   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
joderale wrote:
I agree. It is amazing to me that so many pixels and their connections can be crammed into such a tiny sensor.
If that technology was moved to a full frame sensor (and I'm sure it will be), the dynamic range could be huge. Dont worry, storage space and download speed will increase accordingly; it always has.

I've thought about an idea where there are three or more pixels occupying the same area currently occupied by one pixel, each gathering light at a different exposure, creating an HDR with one shot. I'm sure that is coming.

One day we'll look back and say, "Remember when a photo was only 30 MP?"
I agree. It is amazing to me that so many pixels a... (show quote)


This is not even close to what the state of the art is - there are sensors with pixel counts north of a Gigapixel. Their optimized for arial/satellite/astronomical photography - basically anything else where resolution is all important. Using them is a challenge - high power consumption, higher heat output, fragility, and a host of other challenges. The cost of an operational device is in the millions.

The eye’s color resolving limit is around 6MP - basically that’s a pixel for every cone cell in the fovea with left over for the rest of the eye. B&W rods are different - there are north of 100MP of them and they interpolate with both the cones and the other rods to give an image thats roughly 480MP.

But that’s the entire field of vision. Sit in front of an 4k or 8k TV screen - the eye pixel usage will be roughly 15-20MP for the section of the eye that’s seeing the image at typical distances.

Nothing in science is simple - human biology the most unsimple.

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Aug 9, 2019 09:41:02   #
jkm757 Loc: San Diego, Ca.
 
repleo wrote:
In ten years time we will be reminiscing about 'back in the old days when we used real cameras' - at least those of us still around will.


No reminiscing for me. I plan on using my real camera (D850) until the day I drop dead.

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Aug 9, 2019 11:46:51   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
[quote=repleo]Xiaomi has announced a 108MP sensor phone camera. It will out-pixel the medium format Fujifilm GX100.
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Would having higher MP's in a phone mean that cropping and enlarging be improved?
And also making larger prints sharper?

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Aug 9, 2019 12:05:39   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Canisdirus wrote:
You can put a ferrari engine in a volkswagen bug ....
But you haven't recreated a ferrari.


No, but you have created a one hell of a fast VW bug, I will take one.

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Aug 9, 2019 12:11:53   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
Earnest Botello wrote:
No, but you have created a one hell of a fast VW bug, I will take one.


Hear hear

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Aug 9, 2019 12:21:26   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
repleo wrote:
Xiaomi has announced a 108MP sensor phone camera. It will out-pixel the medium format Fujifilm GX100.

Oh boy - 108 MP selfies clogging up the internet. Wonder how long it will take to upload them to your social media site.


That is 108mp ppi. It may out pixel the GX100, but it's only a 12.3 mp camera. Try a medium format camera with some decent resolution. However, what is the size of the Xiaomi sensor? That's needed to really know.

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Aug 9, 2019 12:22:27   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
SteveR wrote:
That is 108mp ppi. It may out pixel the GX100, but it's only a 12.3 mp camera. Try a medium format camera with some decent resolution. However, what is the size of the Xiaomi sensor? That's needed to really know.


Roughly full frame.

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