Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

The assumption that the OP meant 85mm EF lens as there never was an 80mm EF lens.
All EF lenses work with ALL EOS cameras ever made to include, FF, APSC, M and R cameras 100%.

dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley

- EOS Rebel SL2 (200D) & SL3 (250D)... $550... 24MP, Digic 7 processor, ISO 100-25600 (expands to 51200), 1/4000 top shutter speed & 1/200 flash sync, 5 fps, 9-point AF system (-0.5EV, f/5.6 limited), 95% .82X penta-mirror viewfinder, articulated 3" rear LCD Touch Screen, single SD memory card slot, smaller LP-E17 battery (fewer shots per charge), no provision for battery/vertical grip. Note: World's smallest and lightest DSLRs. These two models are very similar... the SL3 has improved battery efficiency and slightly enhanced WiFi connectivity.

I have the SL2/200D and you can indeed get a battery grip for it. It just will not have Canon's name plastered on it.

Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb

GO TO A STORE FIND ONE THAT FITS YOUR HAND AND POCKET.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Thanks for that info, DW … I'd been wondering what the improvements were in the SL3 over the SL2!!!

dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley

I have the SL2 not the SL3. I would not upgrade to a SL3 for the few improvements over the SL2. While the newer Digic8 processor and improved battery life of the SL3 is a great thing. The other "improvements" or or removal of features, are not worth the cost to update.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Oh, Gwan, DW … the Digic 8 ALONE makes it worth the extra bucks! Tell me, though - exactly which features did Canon remove from the SL2, in coming up with the SL3?

PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA

The center pin of the hot shoe was removed. It is part of the "universal" connection for other brand flashes.

Harry13

"if you want to use artificial light in the future and at some time, you probably will."

Not necessarily. I've been shooting since the 1960s and the only artificial light I ever used was stage lighting back in the day when I was in college. In the last 50 or so years it's been all natural Of course ymmv but try to stay away from dark rooms and people making love on the lawn at night! :-) Harry

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Oh, I see, Paul - so, now - you can only use Canon Speedlites … big deal!!!!

Anything else?

Haydon

I'd expect you would understand being an portrait photographer in a previous life the importance of lighting options. It goes far beyond that.

What if someone wanted to take a lighting workshop with strobes and they had no conception of the usefulness of a center pin. A workshop isn't possible with that camera.

Removing features in a declining market just doesn't make sense.

The problem is, many beginners wouldn't be able to identify the caveat. They aren't educated.

 

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Haydon - I have two older Canon Speedlites - made before the advent of DSLRs. One is designed to go on the flash-pod on the camera, and the other is a flashgun-type - designed to be attached by a bracket. After I got my Rebel T3 in 2011, I had a long conversation with Canon Support - telling them what I had. They told me in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS - not to use ANY Canon flash-heads OR Strobes with it - as the excess power could RUIN the camera. So, I suspect they did this with the SL3 - to protect the beginner!

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

With all the chatter about your question, I forgot to mention you might want to invest some time and a smaller amount of cash to rent various camera bodies not just to make sure your lenses are compatible but to get the real feel for the camera. In any case,
Happy Shooting!

Haydon

Or more likely to shoe the beginner into buying only new Canon speedlights. Using an old flash is just dangerous on any equipment without checking. We both know that. Do they remove the center pin from others models other than the T7. What about other manufacturers? That's just faulty logic.

Your logic doesn't apply to triggers unfortunately or any other entry level Canon's that continue to use center pin. This is a new development with just those two models presently. Studio strobes require center pin for triggers in most brands. My Godox trigger also has a custom function to enable center pin only to allow (other brands) to fire the trigger. This is a propriety move. Research is key in buying anything.

The SL3 is a step back just like the SX70 removing the hot shoe entirely.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

[quote=Haydon]Or more likely to shoe the beginner into buying only new Canon speedlights. Using an old flash is just dangerous on any equipment without checking. We both know that. Do they remove the center pin from others models other than the T7. What about other manufacturers? That's just faulty logic.

Your logic doesn't apply to triggers unfortunately or any other entry level Canon's that continue to use center pin. This is a new development with just those two models presently. Studio strobes require center pin for triggers in most brands. My Godox trigger also has a custom function to enable center pin only to allow (other brands) to fire the trigger. This is a propriety move. Research is key in buying anything.

The SL3 is a step back just like the SX70 removing the hot shoe entirely.[/quote

Sure, it's proprietary - just like Canon's decision to require us to pay additional - for lens hoods. You know, Haydon - neither my SX-30 IS nor my SX-40 HS have hot shoes. Only the SX-50 and SX-60 had them. So, now - the Powershots have come full circle with the SX-70 not having one, again …