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Jun 20, 2019 11:40:23   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
You wanted millennials to "....please state their reasons for using one smartphone/camera over another? Granted the technology changes rapidly but what camera is better today?"

My Samsung S5 was showing stress from nearing the end of it's too short life. It was the only "smart" phone I ever owned. The logical choice for advice was my high school aged granddaughter. She owns a Nikon and has 1679 followers on Instagram. Her Instagram "work" is done with her phone.

In my mind, she is clearly an expert and very good photographer. So, needing a new phone, I asked her, "What I should get?".

Her answer was clear and simple. "They all take good photos. Boys buy Androids and girls buy iPhones."

Not wanting my gender to be confused, I bought a "last year's", discounted Samsung Galaxy S8 Android phone. I've put Adobe apps on it including Lightroom. I can shoot a picture and it automagically appears in Lightroom Classic on my computer without having to do anything to make it transfer.

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Jun 20, 2019 11:49:07   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Millennials,

I know, the usual battle is between Nikon and Canon, but this is the 21st Century. I don't need to hear from the gray panthers. This is a different toy. Will those who know please state their reasons for using one smartphone/camera over another? Granted the technology changes rapidly but what camera is better today?


DxoMark does reviews and ratings for cellphone cameras. In fact, they seem to do more cellphone reviews than ILCs these days. They see the future and the future is cellphones.

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Jun 20, 2019 12:26:01   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Ed,

Is the price of film expensive?

EdR wrote:
I checked the mirror. My hair is thinning and gray. šŸ¤Ŗ. Get rid of all this digital junk and go back to a real camera. Maybe an 8x10 or larger! šŸ¦•

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Jun 20, 2019 12:37:07   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
EdR wrote:
I checked the mirror. My hair is thinning and gray. šŸ¤Ŗ. Get rid of all this digital junk and go back to a real camera. Maybe an 8x10 or larger! šŸ¦•


Who is going to carry it around for you???

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Jun 20, 2019 12:45:01   #
EdR Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Ed,

Is the price of film expensive?


Donā€™t know. I was just pulling some legs, on the phone vs, ā€œreal cameraā€ debate.

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Jun 20, 2019 12:50:21   #
EdR Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
 
traderjohn wrote:
Who is going to carry it around for you???


My Great Grandson when he gets a little biggeršŸ˜

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Jun 20, 2019 13:00:55   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Cell phones are getting larger & larger, aka, Samsung Note 9, iPhone XS Max. Seems to me they could just incorporate a minimally capable phone into a pocket sized bridge camera with all the photo bells & whistles like Sony RX100, Panasonic ZS100, Canon smaller power shots, etc...Then you'd have a camera with a phone not necessarily a phone with limited camera specs. Seriously, the actual cell phone part is just pretty one dimensional, just for talking....granted it would minimally increase the size....šŸ˜Š šŸŗ šŸŗ...Cheers

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Jun 20, 2019 13:30:31   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
For General images, my iPhone 8+ is more than sufficient, especially if I don't crop or zoom the image. Most of my macro is of insects that won't even fill the sensor of my APS-C cameras. Thus my iPhone isn't good at the kind of macro I do. If I want to capture an image of something farther away, zooming with the iPhone discards a lot of pixels and the IQ suffers. Eventually those issues will be resolved. Until then, my iPhone camera is relegated to taking images of the grandkids or scenes that don't involve cropping or zooming.

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Jun 20, 2019 13:31:11   #
Spiney Loc: Reading, PA
 
I have an iPhone 8+ and love it. Iā€™m a member of ā€œThe Tiny Shutter Podcastā€ Facebook users group and listen to their weekly podcasts. The consensus there seems to be the iPhone because of the Many Photo Apps.

That being said one thing the Samsung and other Android phones have over the iPhone is they usually have expansion of memory via SmartCards. Apple charges dearly for their memory in my opinion. I have 64gb and wish I had 128 or even 256gb

Apple is usually more cautious with there upgrades. Their latest phone is said to have 3 rear camera lenses while others have had that for awhile. So donā€™t upgrade till that release this Fall.

I wouldnā€™t let others influence you with ā€œIts not a real cameraā€. With dual lenses & computational imaging my iPhone can easily capture HDR images that my Nikon doesnā€™t.

There are loads of APPS and accessory lenses that expand the capabilities. Moment makes great wide, Tele, & Macro lenses around $100 each. The App Camera +2 offers a great Macro Mode not requiring and additional lenses.

Iā€™ve seen incredible Astrophotography images using Smartphones attached to a telescope using Apps like NightCap.

I suggest you go to Best Buy or the Phone store and see what feels good for you. But hold out for the latest upgrade in September.

Iā€™ve captured many images I wouldnā€™t have because I always have my phone with me.

I can shoot, cull, edit even in PS or Lightroom, then share in minutes. Canā€™t do that with most cameras. And I can save in RAW and easily print 13x19ā€ on my Canon printer.

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Jun 20, 2019 13:49:43   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Spiney wrote:
I have an iPhone 8+ and love it. Iā€™m a member of ā€œThe Tiny Shutter Podcastā€ Facebook users group and listen to their weekly podcasts. The consensus there seems to be the iPhone because of the Many Photo Apps.

That being said one thing the Samsung and other Android phones have over the iPhone is they usually have expansion of memory via SmartCards. Apple charges dearly for their memory in my opinion. I have 64gb and wish I had 128 or even 256gb

Apple is usually more cautious with there upgrades. Their latest phone is said to have 3 rear camera lenses while others have had that for awhile. So donā€™t upgrade till that release this Fall.

I wouldnā€™t let others influence you with ā€œIts not a real cameraā€. With dual lenses & computational imaging my iPhone can easily capture HDR images that my Nikon doesnā€™t.

There are loads of APPS and accessory lenses that expand the capabilities. Moment makes great wide, Tele, & Macro lenses around $100 each. The App Camera +2 offers a great Macro Mode not requiring and additional lenses.

Iā€™ve seen incredible Astrophotography images using Smartphones attached to a telescope using Apps like NightCap.

I suggest you go to Best Buy or the Phone store and see what feels good for you. But hold out for the latest upgrade in September.

Iā€™ve captured many images I wouldnā€™t have because I always have my phone with me.

I can shoot, cull, edit even in PS or Lightroom, then share in minutes. Canā€™t do that with most cameras. And I can save in RAW and easily print 13x19ā€ on my Canon printer.
I have an iPhone 8+ and love it. Iā€™m a member of ā€œ... (show quote)


Do you do much cropping or zooming ?

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Jun 20, 2019 13:56:11   #
BebuLamar
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Ed,

Is the price of film expensive?


I want one and I can carry it. Just that I can't afford a good one even used and I can't afford the cost of 8x10 film either.
Just checked B&H it's $179 for 10 sheets of Ektar 100 8x10.

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Jun 20, 2019 14:13:22   #
no12mo
 
AirWalter wrote:
NIKON! This gray panther is reminding you that this is a photography site that most people will agree that if you desire to take real photos then you should use a camera, not a telephone. If you want to know who the winner is between iphone or samsung,, you should find out which one looks best to you.


Respectively disagree. See UHH page: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/newsletter.jsp

I have shot Sears Tower rangfinder, Canon A series and T90. I now shoot Nikon D7000 & D500. I also shoot a very disappointing Canon ELPH point and shoot. I take the ELPH along on my bicycle rides for opportune "Kodak Moments."

On my bucket list is to get an iphone or some such as I know some models are capable of some very high resolution pictures as evidenced by a friend of mine who pushes his iphone to its limits. I'm interested in some dialog and even some examples by some of our UHH users of these phones. It might help me in my next photographic toy acquisition.

Taking from the link provided above, the best camera you could have is the one you have with you. It just might an iphone or whatever.

This post was written by an 82 year old photographer. So, I guess I'll just stand by and read the dialog for my benefit

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Jun 20, 2019 14:13:30   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Do you do much cropping or zooming ?


As with any camera, one has to learn how to work within its limits. Digital zooming is not one of its strengths but there are accessory lenses that some users find acceptable. I donā€™t use them myself.

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Jun 20, 2019 14:15:47   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
no12mo wrote:
Respectively disagree. See UHH page: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/newsletter.jsp

I have shot Sears Tower rangfinder, Canon A series and T90. I now shoot Nikon D7000 & D500. I also shoot a very disappointing Canon ELPH point and shoot. I take the ELPH along on my bicycle rides for opportune "Kodak Moments."

On my bucket list is to get an iphone or some such as I know some models are capable of some very high resolution pictures as evidenced by a friend of mine who pushes his iphone to its limits. I'm interested in some dialog and even some examples by some of our UHH users of these phones. It might help me in my next photographic toy acquisition.

Taking from the link provided above, the best camera you could have is the one you have with you. It just might an iphone or whatever.
Respectively disagree. See UHH page: https://www... (show quote)


Check out the YouTube videos by Emil Pakarklis. You will be impressed. He uses an iPhone but his advice applies to all brands.

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Jun 20, 2019 14:57:22   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
gvarner wrote:
As with any camera, one has to learn how to work within its limits. Digital zooming is not one of its strengths but there are accessory lenses that some users find acceptable. I donā€™t use them myself.


I've tried some of the inexpensive adapter lenses, but they were all junk.... Much like the accessory tele and wide angle adapters sold for DSLR lenses that screw onto the front of another lens

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