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May 24, 2019 08:52:55   #
tankdonovan Loc: Tennessee
 
tenny52 wrote:
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the Hwawei P30 Pro, I find that dsl camera days is numbered. At a price of less than a pro zoom lens, it can do much more.
Its technology may not be truly optical, but the effect is similar to 100 times the iso capacity of today's camera. This is only the beginning of a new era of photo technology.
At least for now, you won't need to carry 20 lbs of photo gears on a safari trip.
Hwawei is a smart phone and network company, which is under Trump's censorship heavily.
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the... (show quote)


Never heard of it.

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May 24, 2019 08:59:25   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
tenny52 wrote:
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the Hwawei P30 Pro, I find that dsl camera days is numbered. At a price of less than a pro zoom lens, it can do much more.
Its technology may not be truly optical, but the effect is similar to 100 times the iso capacity of today's camera. This is only the beginning of a new era of photo technology.
At least for now, you won't need to carry 20 lbs of photo gears on a safari trip.
Hwawei is a smart phone and network company, which is under Trump's censorship heavily.
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the... (show quote)


We still have:

AM and FM radio
Broadcast TV
Vinyl records
Swiss mechanical watches
Buggy whips

The camera market will shrink. But it will not go away.

The vast majority of folks who bought sophisticated SLRs and dSLRs only did so because there was nothing more convenient or capable enough that met their needs.

A smartphone can do any combination of your pick of two million tasks, and it fits in your pocket. It is a photographic compromise that most people can accept, in order to have all the other capabilities.

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May 24, 2019 09:00:21   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Really? Which ones?


They are all awkward....

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May 24, 2019 09:06:46   #
jkphotos
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
There are thousands upon thousands of working Professional Photographers around the world that make their living with DSLRs, not cell phones. To predict that "the camera age is doomed" is absurd. Same as claiming that the DSLR age is doomed.

When somebody can capture this image with a Smartphone, I might pay attention.


Well said and presented.

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May 24, 2019 09:13:35   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
ggab wrote:
I may be wrong, however I expect you only do the following on your computer:

1- Read email
2- Use online social media
3- Listen to music
3- Play games
4- Surf the web

For many, that is sufficient. Those of us that use our computers for work, beyond the above, need:
1- A better file system and method to search
2- Larger internal storage capacity
3- More advanced tools
4- Greater control then the small touch screen provides
5- A larger screen to catch fine details
6- More computing capacity
I may be wrong, however I expect you only do the f... (show quote)


From your initial list I only do two of those things. Read email and surf the web. I don't have the time to indulge in social media, except for a few photography forums like this one. I don't play games on my cell phone or on my home computer, and do not listen to music on my cell phone. However, I do use it for almost countless other tasks. Following are some of them:

- a phone

- a camera

- for texting

- for online purchases

- research tool to help my wife's consulting job.

- to read and edit, MS Excel, Word, and PowerPoint documents, mostly for my wife.

- check and monitor in real time my wife's business flights

- check on the status of my house and car.

- use it as a car finder in a large parking lot.

- read most of my news on various apps.

- get my weather information.

- pay for many things at point it purchase by tapping my phone.

- use the camera when I am in stores to take photographs of items that I'm interested in purchasing to send to my wife for her opinion.

- take pictures of used up items at home that I need to repurchase in a store so I get exactly the right item.

- use the currency exchange app when I plan to travel internationally, or purchase online internationally

- Use the universal measurement conversion app several times a week for a variety of reasons.

- use a To Do list daily

- use the calendar app extensively to keep track of appointments and events.

- use my scientific calculator every day

- Track my packages from UPS, USPS and FedEx

- Make notes

- Use the flashlight.

-. Use the level

-. Use a variety of photographic apps like Hyperfocal Pro

- use it as a GPS

The list can continue on and on and on but I think I've made my point. I am also a computer power user and was an IT professional for 37 years. My smartphone does not replace my home computer. It is an adjunct to it and a very powerful one that allows me to do a huge number of tasks untethered from my home computer. For those who live a sedentary life or are cautious or fearful, or even paranoid, and are unaware of the power and availability of the many features and uses of a smartphone there may not be a need for such a powerful device.

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May 24, 2019 09:16:36   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
sodapop wrote:
They are all awkward....


I'm not sure what you mean by awkward. They have limitations of course, but I've used them for years and they're very simple and easy to use. Can you explain in what way they are awkward?

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May 24, 2019 09:17:23   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
tankdonovan wrote:
Never heard of it.


Google is your friend.

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May 24, 2019 09:37:20   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
mwsilvers wrote:
there are many tasks I can do faster and better than I can on my home computer

Not to hijack the thread or argue, this is more of curiosity.
What can you do on your phone faster and better than you can do on your PC?

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May 24, 2019 09:40:29   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
ggab wrote:
Not to hijack the thread or argue, this is more of curiosity.
What can you do on your phone faster and better than you can do on your PC?


Respond to your post while I'm sitting on the toilet in less than 5 seconds.

Edit: I was just being a smart-ass with my earlier remark, but you did ask and I never lie. The fact is that I can do many things faster on my smartphone because I can control most things by voice. There are also some capabilities of a smartphone that are not available on a desktop computer. Try paying for your breakfast at McDonald's with your desktop computer. And further, I can do all these tasks virtually anywhere.

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May 24, 2019 09:42:28   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Respond to your post while I'm sitting on the toilet in less than 5 seconds.


Really, you take your phone to the bathroom!!!!

TMI

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May 24, 2019 09:48:58   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
ggab wrote:
Really, you take your phone to the bathroom!!!!

TMI


My smartphone is with me 24/7. But I was being a smart-ass to make a point. Please read the edits to my original post to you.

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May 24, 2019 10:00:58   #
Low Budget Dave
 
Generally speaking, in any situation where you have good light, a slow-moving subject, and no need to blur the background, a cell phone will take better pictures than a large-sensor camera.

In dim light, or with a fast-moving subject, or when you really need to blur the background, the bigger sensors will work better.

The newer cameras have narrowed each gap by making several sensors work together, but they don't have the light-gathering capability to match a single large sensor. If you are taking pictures of your kids playing basketball under (terrible) high-school gym lighting, you will need a big camera with a big sensor.

For now.

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May 24, 2019 10:15:33   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Respond to your post while I'm sitting on the toilet in less than 5 seconds.

Edit: I was just being a smart-ass with my earlier remark, but you did ask and I never lie. The fact is that I can do many things faster on my smartphone because I can control most things by voice. There are also some capabilities of a smartphone that are not available on a desktop computer. Try paying for your breakfast at McDonald's with your desktop computer. And further, I can do all these tasks virtually anywhere.
Respond to your post while I'm sitting on the toil... (show quote)


Ooops,
I responded too quickly with my computer.

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May 24, 2019 10:19:47   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
tenny52 wrote:
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the Hwawei P30 Pro, I find that dsl camera days is numbered. At a price of less than a pro zoom lens, it can do much more.
Its technology may not be truly optical, but the effect is similar to 100 times the iso capacity of today's camera. This is only the beginning of a new era of photo technology.
At least for now, you won't need to carry 20 lbs of photo gears on a safari trip.
Hwawei is a smart phone and network company, which is under Trump's censorship heavily.
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the... (show quote)


Something to think about

https://www.diyphotography.net/ricoh-thinks-photographers-will-start-switching-from-mirrorless-back-to-dslrs-within-1-2-years/

Ricoh thinks people will move away from mirrorless once the novelty wears off, and back to DSLRs.

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May 24, 2019 10:23:55   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Fantasy from Phone Drones.....not likely in my lifetime if I have any say in the matter. I will be buried with my gear........YEP !

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