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Apr 20, 2019 16:32:47   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I was looking at that lens, DXO has the 300 off the charts sharp, they have a funky rating system, perceived mgea pixels, but they give the 300 45 P-Mpix, the deal is that the 400's were just a tad more than I could afford, I found this lens at a pretty good price through Adorama and just took the plunge. Regis here shoots the same lens and it seems that money is not a problem for him in acquiring gear, I talked to him about it a bit before making the purchase.

Here is a simple test with and without the extender, this chair was about 30 ft away and I thought that the tread pattern would be a good test. No sharpening or processing has been done to these images. I think that without the extender the lens is visibly sharper as shown in the crops, but 300mm is a bit short for birding and with the extender the lens still looks quite usable for birding and allows for substantially more cropping. Another plus is that the 300 is lot easier to handle than my 500mm, it is shorter, better balanced on the camera, and definitely lighter. The 400 would have been similar in size and weight to my 500.

I will have to do a comparison between this lens with the 2X and the 500 with and without the 1.4X extender.
I was looking at that lens, DXO has the 300 off th... (show quote)


Looks great to me.

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Apr 20, 2019 16:37:27   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I was looking at that lens, DXO has the 300 off the charts sharp, they have a funky rating system, perceived mgea pixels, but they give the 300 45 P-Mpix, the deal is that the 400's were just a tad more than I could afford, I found this lens at a pretty good price through Adorama and just took the plunge. Regis here shoots the same lens and it seems that money is not a problem for him in acquiring gear, I talked to him about it a bit before making the purchase.

Here is a simple test with and without the extender, this chair was about 30 ft away and I thought that the thread pattern would be a good test. No sharpening or processing has been done to these images. I think that without the extender the lens is visibly sharper as shown in the crops, but 300mm is a bit short for birding and with the extender the lens still looks quite usable for birding and allows for substantially more cropping. Another plus is that the 300 is lot easier to handle than my 500mm, it is shorter, better balanced on the camera, and definitely lighter. The 400 would have been similar in size and weight to my 500.

I will have to do a comparison between this lens with the 2X and the 500 with and without the 1.4X extender.
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Are these wide open ? and, are you focusing in live view ?

Long ago I tried the 500 4.5 - that is when I decided the 300 with 2X was better for ME. Back then there was no 400 DO tho 8-(
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Apr 20, 2019 16:41:01   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
imagemeister wrote:
Are these wide open ? and, are you focusing in live view ?
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Yes and no, hand held, wide open focused through view finder.

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Apr 20, 2019 16:53:08   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Here is the 2X extender with 1 Pixel sharpening in High Pass and a contrast adjustment, I think that I am going to get along just fine with this lens, I am not ready to get rid of the 500 just yet, not until I spend some time in the field with this lens.


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Apr 20, 2019 17:05:39   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Here is the 2X extender with 1 Pixel sharpening in High Pass and a contrast adjustment, I think that I am going to get along just fine with this lens, I am not ready to get rid of the 500 just yet, not until I spend some time in the field with this lens.



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Apr 20, 2019 21:06:05   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Says the thunder and lightening outside.... What a bumber, new lens got here and the light is really poor outside, can't take it out for test images.


Sounds like a good time to try lightning photography !

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Apr 20, 2019 21:17:01   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
PGHphoto wrote:
Sounds like a good time to try lightning photography !



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Apr 20, 2019 21:24:46   #
Haydon
 
PGHphoto wrote:
Sounds like a good time to try lightning photography !


You'd have to be really lucky or really good working at 300 mm :)

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Apr 20, 2019 23:53:33   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Says the thunder and lightening outside.... What a bumber, new lens got here and the light is really poor outside, can't take it out for test images.
I don't get it, that are the perfect scenarios you're describing to get a new lens broke in! Can't ask for much more!!

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Apr 21, 2019 08:10:27   #
robertjsmith
 
Hello,
It may be a little late for a reply but I'm old and slow. Anyway I often take photos from the inside of the house with the door open, it's quick so no real heat loss. But I have learned to take photos capturing only the raindrops. You might be surprised at what is really there. No special equipment or settings. and with a flash you can get some pretty amazing shots.
Just a thought,
Bob

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Apr 21, 2019 08:15:48   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
That seems a little harsh. It also seems petty. Take the camera with the lens and a rain shield. Play with the new "baby" and put it through it's paces. Set up a new file on the memory card. Carry a little notebook and write down the location and weather for each file. When you get home review your work. As for harsh comments, I would tell other posters on UHH to critique your posts, and learn from them.

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Apr 21, 2019 08:18:36   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
robertjsmith wrote:
Hello,
It may be a little late for a reply but I'm old and slow. Anyway I often take photos from the inside of the house with the door open, it's quick so no real heat loss. But I have learned to take photos capturing only the raindrops. You might be surprised at what is really there. No special equipment or settings. and with a flash you can get some pretty amazing shots.
Just a thought,
Bob


Thanks Robert, but I was wanting to evaluate a high end Super Telephoto lens, it has been my experience that good lighting delivers the best results, cloudy and rainy days do not prohibit photography but not the best time to evaluate a lens for IQ. Good news is that it is sunny now and I can play and compare this lens and extenders to others I already own.

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Apr 21, 2019 09:36:49   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Thanks Robert, but I was wanting to evaluate a high end Super Telephoto lens, it has been my experience that good lighting delivers the best results, cloudy and rainy days do not prohibit photography but not the best time to evaluate a lens for IQ. Good news is that it is sunny now and I can play and compare this lens and extenders to others I already own.


I agree. Nice to evaluate under best conditions first.

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Apr 21, 2019 10:30:52   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
For anyone interested in the performance of this lens here is one from this morning and this is probably how I will use the lens the most, Canon 1.4X Extender for a 420mm f/4.0 lens. This image was taken from about 35 to 40 feet based on the height of the tree and how far in front of it that I was standing. The image of the bee is a crop from the original image shown, you can see a little black dot just above the center of the image, that is where the crop was taken from.





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Apr 21, 2019 11:07:05   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
For anyone interested in the performance of this lens here is one from this morning and this is probably how I will use the lens the most, Canon 1.4X Extender for a 420mm f/4.0 lens. This image was taken from about 35 to 40 feet based on the height of the tree and how far in front of it that I was standing. The image of the bee is a crop from the original image shown, you can see a little black dot just above the center of the image, that is where the crop was taken from.


Looks like you’ve got a real nice lens. Enjoy!!

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