Where does a crop sensor body fit into a kit of FF cameras? (Page 3): The EOS R goes into crop sensor mode when EF-S lenses are mounted so your image is the same size as a crop sensor.

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

Blurryeyed wrote:

The thing about using EF-S lenses on your full frame is you will have some really bad vignette issues as I don't think that the EF-S lenses will completely cover the sensor with the image circle. There are some excellent EF-S lenses out there but I am not so sure that they are will suited for the R.

The EOS R goes into crop sensor mode when EF-S lenses are mounted so your image is the same size as a crop sensor. No vignetting. There is one disadvantage though. You are doing the exact same thing as cropping a FF image to match a crop sensor image, and, as a result, you are losing pixel density.

rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)

robertjerl wrote:

Crop it to the coverage of my 80D or 7DII and I have (30 mp / 1.6 =) 18.75 MP on subject.

Actually it's more like 11.72 MP, not 18+; [30/(1.6X1.6) = 11.719]

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

DaveyDitzer wrote:

Recently my neighbor and I both took shots of an e... (show quote)

I use FF for landscape, architecture, macro, portraits and wildlife. I use the crop sensor camera for situations where weight and speed matters, like street, travel and other casual photography. My crop sensor camera is also mirrorless and is from another manufacturer so the lenses are not compatible.

However, using the crop sensor for extended reach when you need it makes sense. Right now, if I need additional reach using the FF, I just put an extender on the long glass and accept the loss of light.

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

DaveyDitzer wrote:

Recently my neighbor and I both took shots of an e... (show quote)

What is the difference whether you crop now (with the crop sensor) or later? The ability to crop more radically with an FF is always touted, and had always seemed absurd to me because the crop sensor is getting you a 1.5 x image already cropped. True you have to aim it at the right spot. (a lot to ask of the photographer, right?)

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

CatMarley wrote:

What is the difference whether you crop now (with the crop sensor) or later? The ability to crop more radically with an FF is always touted, and had always seemed absurd to me because the crop sensor is getting you a 1.5 x image already cropped. True you have to aim it at the right spot. (a lot to ask of the photographer, right?)

Pixel density is the difference. Crop a 30mp FF image to the size of a 20mp crop sensor image and the FF image will become an 11.7mp image (with Canon. Nikon slightly different) while the crop sensor remains 20mp. If you crop the crop sensor images you of course lose pixels but you also have to crop the FF image further so the same ratio still applies.

danersmiff

InPixio Photo Maximizer, you can take an image with 72dpi, and "maximize" up to 200% of the dpi you started with. I have maximized shots cropped down to 72dpi up to 310 dpi... for a good blow up the printer guy like a minimum of 130dpi or so
Doesn't photoshop or light room have something similar?

Keep your full frame, crop it to what you need, then Maximize the pixels back into it.
The Maximizer software can be had for less than a 100 bux, you own it, and you can use it ANYTIME...
You MAY be able to use a free trial??

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Forget all that p/p cropping. Everybody needs a good crop camera.

DebAnn Loc: Toronto

DaveyDitzer wrote:

Recently my neighbor and I both took shots of an e... (show quote)

I've been looking at this issue prior to my trip to Africa. I've concluded that I will be better served by taking the crop sensor body with an 18-400mm lens.

Selene03

I use a Canon Sl2 for birds, dolphins, whales, etc mostly from my kayak and other boats. I got it at first because I knew it could get wet and I didn't want to trash a really expensive camera, but I like the crop factor for this purpose. If I were to ever go on a serious safari, I think I would try to get a top of the line aps-c camera because of the crop factor. I like the ability to frame better with ff cameras when shooting landscapes and travel but I would agree with the observation that there is room for both types of bodies for different types of shooting.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

CatMarley wrote:

What is the difference whether you crop now (with the crop sensor) or later? The ability to crop more radically with an FF is always touted, and had always seemed absurd to me because the crop sensor is getting you a 1.5 x image already cropped. True you have to aim it at the right spot. (a lot to ask of the photographer, right?)

Well think about this, when you can fill the frame with a bird or animal, a sporting event with a Canon 5DS or a Nikon 850D how many more pixels you have and how much more detail you can capture.... Consider the image below, it has been reduced in size for posting to the web but even so it shows good detail, take a look at the feathers near the lower portion of the neck where the white feathers meet the dark feathers, in my opinion the 7DII that I owned before purchasing my 5DSR would never have captured that detail.

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RRS Loc: Not sure

SnappyHappy wrote:

For me my primary camera is a FF Canon 5DSr. Most... (show quote)

RRS Loc: Not sure

cmc4214 wrote:

Cheaper to buy a D500 that will make the 200-500 equivalent to a 300-750 than to buy 750mm lens of equal quality, and he will have a back-up camera (and not lose any pixels)

Just for kicks, where can you buy a "750mm" lens today. A prime 600mm f/4.0 will cost you well over $10,000.00 be it a Nikon or a Canon.

ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

DaveyDitzer wrote:

Recently my neighbor and I both took shots of an e... (show quote)

Please re-read this Hogs situation ----
My response was based solely on when he became aware that the bird was "perched behind our houses" his issue was not & never was his camera (it's probably the only camera he owns) but his real issue was he ran out of his house with the wrong sized lens on his camera -- The right sized lens - which he states he already owns - would have "optically" gotten him just as close or even closer then what his neighbor did with his camera --- Since you can't go back in time my suggestion was Crop the shot you took & be ready the next time with the right lens ---
If this is no more then a Gas Attack on his part -- By all means make the camera manufactures happy --- buy another camera

Unclehoss

Honest question, not trying to be a smart aleck. For all who argue against cropping a full frame, how big are you going to print that end resultant image? Do you require the full 30 MP to print to the 30" x 36" print? Or is 5x7, 8x10 in the album the biggest you will print, thus negating your argument against cropping?

Unclehoss

DaveyDitzer wrote:

Recently my neighbor and I both took shots of an e... (show quote)

In an ideal world (defined as my ideal world) I could afford to have that motorcycle to cruise around when it is just me and let the wind blow through what is left of my hair. In addition, I would have the two seat sports car for when it is just the wife and I. I would have the SUV or minivan to haul the two of us plus the kids. I would have the pickup for hauling home improvement materials with. I would have the small airplane to get out to the rest of the family in short time. But, alas I compromise for my needs vs the budget and I have done both crop sensor and now full frame and don't see going back to a crop sensor for my primary use.