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Feb 20, 2019 12:26:50   #
BebuLamar
 
Chris T wrote:
Bebu … any small compact camera with ANY kind of zoom, might be appropriately termed "a bridge" …

A small compact camera with a fixed lens - is more appropriately termed "a point and shoot" …


so you consider this
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1190330-REG/sony_dscrx1rm2_b_cyber_shot_dsc_rx1r_ii_digital.html
as a point and shoot?

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Feb 20, 2019 12:30:10   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Graham Smith wrote:
And asking about a pocketable bridge camera makes no sense at all...unless you have extraordinarily large sized pockets.


Really, Graham? … er - take a look at the new Sony HX-99 … it's pocketable, and has a 24-720 lens, too!!!

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Feb 20, 2019 12:33:41   #
User ID
 
Chris T wrote:

Neither, Bebu … the lead post indicates, pretty clearly -
what this one's about. Read it, why don'tcha?


The lead post does NOT "indicate pretty clearly".
It indicates a desire for bridge camera versatility,
in a pocketable size, at an unspecified "affordable"
price. NOT "pretty clear":-(

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Feb 20, 2019 12:36:10   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 


Bebu .. that camera has a FIXED lens - w/ NO ZOOM, so - yes - it's a Point and Shoot, rather than a bridge.

But - sensibly priced? … it ain't!!!

So, no - it doesn't even qualify - for a mention in THIS post - on EITHER count …

It's an elitest camera … well done … but, terribly overpriced!!!!

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Feb 20, 2019 12:41:18   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
User ID wrote:
The lead post does NOT "indicate pretty clearly".
It indicates a desire for bridge camera versatility,
in a pocketable size, at an unspecified "affordable"
price. NOT "pretty clear":-(

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THIS IS THE LEAD POST, User ID -

This one's NOT about cameras designed for elitists - it's about the ones designed for those who want something small and pocketable, and - most of all - inexpensive. Now, then … we ALL know they're out there - don't we? … And many folks buy them, too. They may not have a zillion megapixels, or FF formats, or APS-C, or MFT, or 1" even - but they get the job done - don't they? …. So, what's your fave, and why?

Oh, yes … be sure to indicate pertinent facts about it, when you comment - like MP (if you know it) and Zoom Length, and Sensor size (if it's digital) and if not - film size it takes. And, perhaps - the price … ok?

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And, btw, USER ID … I decided to do this one, because of a comment YOU MADE, in another post!!!

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Feb 20, 2019 12:48:07   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
I had some years ago (still have it but unused) a Canon PowerShot S5 IS, and at the moment I was VERY happy with it's performance.
Obviously, it was the first camera I owned, so not much to compare with. And never pushed it's limits really.
But was way better than the family's point n' shoot, and made me happy taking pictures with it.

So, if I was (for whatever reason) on the market for a bridge camera, I would start on that "line" of products. I would probably consider Canon's PowerShot SX70 HS, would look in whatever Nikon's Coolpix meets the budget and would do the same with Panasonic's Lumix.

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Feb 20, 2019 12:49:57   #
BebuLamar
 
Chris T wrote:
Bebu .. that camera has a FIXED lens - w/ NO ZOOM, so - yes - it's a Point and Shoot, rather than a bridge.

But - sensibly priced? … it ain't!!!

So, no - it doesn't even qualify - for a mention in THIS post - on EITHER count …

It's an elitest camera … well done … but, terribly overpriced!!!!


Why you call it point and shoot? Essentially almost all cameras today can be used as point and shoot but it does have all the controls you need.

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Feb 20, 2019 12:53:42   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Why you call it point and shoot? Essentially almost all cameras today can be used as point and shoot but it does have all the controls you need.


I agree, that is not a P&S under my "definition".
P&S would be a camera that has no manual mode, just auto, scenes, etc. Regardless of the zoom it has.

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Feb 20, 2019 13:10:23   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
juan_uy wrote:
I had some years ago (still have it but unused) a Canon PowerShot S5 IS, and at the moment I was VERY happy with it's performance.
Obviously, it was the first camera I owned, so not much to compare with. And never pushed it's limits really.
But was way better than the family's point n' shoot, and made me happy taking pictures with it.

So, if I was (for whatever reason) on the market for a bridge camera, I would start on that "line" of products. I would probably consider Canon's PowerShot SX70 HS, would look in whatever Nikon's Coolpix meets the budget and would do the same with Panasonic's Lumix.
I had some years ago (still have it but unused) a ... (show quote)


Juan - I have both the Powershot SX-30 IS, and the follow-up - the Powershot SX-40 HS. The earlier one had 14MP, but the later model cut back to 12MP, but improved the throughput, in doing so. Many UHHers swear by the later SX-50 HS - which extended the zoom range, but kept the RES. The later SX-60 HS - extended the zoom even further (21-1365?) and also upped the RES. The later model - the SX-70 HS - kept the same range, but upped the RES yet again - which has actually made it slower, in use. So, Canon has revisited the problem they had when they did the earlier upgrade, I guess. Nikon Coolpix cameras run the range from more modest zoom ranges to something like 1440 (in the P600 series) and 2000 (P900) and 3000!!!! in the latest P1000. Those are some serious zoom lengths, aren't they? … Lumix has two lines of bridges - the ones which only attain 600mm with 1" sensors, and the ones which attain 1200mm with 1/2.3" sensors. The former ones are quite expensive, as bridges go, but the latter ones can be found in the sub-$500 bracket. All three of these - will land you in pretty good stead, but buy extra batteries - k?

Two other Bridge lines you might want to consider are the Fujifilm Finepix line, and the Kodak PixPro line. They both have models in the sub-$500 bracket. The top model PixPro attains 1980mm (FF equiv.) !!!!

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Feb 20, 2019 13:24:01   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Why you call it point and shoot? Essentially almost all cameras today can be used as point and shoot but it does have all the controls you need.


Because, Bebu - as already indicated - at least - for the purpose of this post, anyway … I consider ANY camera with a fixed ZOOM lens - a bridge. And any camera with a fixed lens, lacking zoom - a Point & Shoot
… this may not be the way the Powers-that-Be - define them, but for the sake of simplicity - in THIS post - THIS is the way, I've divided them - okay, Bebu?

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Feb 20, 2019 13:28:48   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
Chris T wrote:
Juan - I have both the Powershot SX-30 IS, and the follow-up - the Powershot SX-40 HS. The earlier one had 14MP, but the later model cut back to 12MP, but improved the throughput, in doing so. Many UHHers swear by the later SX-50 HS - which extended the zoom range, but kept the RES. The later SX-60 HS - extended the zoom even further (21-1365?) and also upped the RES. The later model - the SX-70 HS - kept the same range, but upped the RES yet again - which has actually made it slower, in use. So, Canon has revisited the problem they had when they did the earlier upgrade, I guess. Nikon Coolpix cameras run the range from more modest zoom ranges to something like 1440 (in the P600 series) and 2000 (P900) and 3000!!!! in the latest P1000. Those are some serious zoom lengths, aren't they? … Lumix has two lines of bridges - the ones which only attain 600mm with 1" sensors, and the ones which attain 1200mm with 1/2.3" sensors. The former ones are quite expensive, as bridges go, but the latter ones can be found in the sub-$500 bracket. All three of these - will land you in pretty good stead, but buy extra batteries - k?

Two other Bridge lines you might want to consider are the Fujifilm Finepix line, and the Kodak PixPro line. They both have models in the sub-$500 bracket. The top model PixPro attains 1980mm (FF equiv.) !!!!
Juan - I have both the Powershot SX-30 IS, and the... (show quote)


Thanks for the information, but your reply sounds the other way round. As if I was asking for suggestions on bridge cameras. I don't want one, I am happy with my dSLR and have a pocketable smaller one for then needed.
I just wanted to chime in with my opinion or suggestion based on your request.
Although it looks like you already have the market more than studied and probably already have your candidates.

Although I was a very happy bridge camera user, I don't think I would go back there.
Nowadays I prefer to use a dSLR, and for the casual snapshots, I just use my cell phone. Or a weather sealed point and shoot or action cam, when needed.

For me, bridge cameras would be useful on just some specific cases, ones I don't see applying to me.

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Feb 20, 2019 13:36:50   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
juan_uy wrote:
I agree, that is not a P&S under my "definition".
P&S would be a camera that has no manual mode, just auto, scenes, etc. Regardless of the zoom it has.


Juan … the terms "Point and Shoot" AND "Bridge" are both so vague - that many folks tend to define them however they wish, and some do - use the terms interchangeably … but for the purpose of THIS Post - which deals ONLY with the BRIDGE variety of Point and Shoots - I prefer to think of a BRIDGE as being any camera with a FIXED ZOOM lens. A Point and Shoot - I consider to be ANY camera, with a FIXED LENS, with NO ZOOM capability. Thus - those kinds of cameras - are NOT within the OVERVIEW of THIS post - okay?

To elaborate further … I think the term "Bridge" was coined to define the camera which takes the place - BETWEEN an ordinary P&S … and a DSLR. After all, most of the ones with moderately long zooms - also incorporate a viewfinder, and are approximately 5" (or more) wide - so they look - pretty much - like a small DSLR - with the luxury of having a FIXED LONG ZOOM lens. As a matter of fact, they USED to be called LONG ZOOMs - but, I guess that term got mixed up with lenses - so Bridge became more popular.

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Feb 20, 2019 13:41:32   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
Chris T wrote:
Juan … the terms "Point and Shoot" AND "Bridge" are both so vague - that many folks tend to define them however they wish, and some do - use the terms interchangeably … but for the purpose of THIS Post - which deals ONLY with the BRIDGE variety of Point and Shoots - I prefer to think of a BRIDGE as being any camera with a FIXED ZOOM lens. A Point and Shoot - I consider to be ANY camera, with a FIXED LENS, with NO ZOOM capability. Thus - those kinds of cameras - are NOT within the OVERVIEW of THIS post - okay?
Juan … the terms "Point and Shoot" AND &... (show quote)


Should consider a sort of disclaimer on the initial post if special definitions of some terms will be use on "THIS post" as you wrote. At least if those definitions are not the more widely accepted ones

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Feb 20, 2019 13:44:49   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
juan_uy wrote:
Thanks for the information, but your reply sounds the other way round. As if I was asking for suggestions on bridge cameras. I don't want one, I am happy with my dSLR and have a pocketable smaller one for then needed.
I just wanted to chime in with my opinion or suggestion based on your request.
Although it looks like you already have the market more than studied and probably already have your candidates.

Although I was a very happy bridge camera user, I don't think I would go back there.
Nowadays I prefer to use a dSLR, and for the casual snapshots, I just use my cell phone. Or a weather sealed point and shoot or action cam, when needed.

For me, bridge cameras would be useful on just some specific cases, ones I don't see applying to me.
Thanks for the information, but your reply sounds ... (show quote)


Oh, I see, Juan … since you specified Powershots, Coolpix and Lumix bridges - I'd assumed you were in the market for one. You and me both … I have all the bridges I ever needed or wanted (11) - mostly Fuji, but I also have a couple Canons, a couple Nikons, an Olympus Stylus SP100EE (with a dot-sight!), a Sony Cybershot, and a Panasonic Lumix FZ-70 (20-1200!!!!) … they all give me the reach I'd not be able to afford - for a FF (most definitely!) or for the twelve APS-C DSLRS I possess. I've no interest in buying another, presently - but a post by another UHHer - made me realize it might be worth revisiting this Topic - I first wrote about, a year ago. After all, time evolves and models change!!!

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Feb 20, 2019 13:49:03   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
juan_uy wrote:
Should consider a sort of disclaimer on the initial post if special definitions of some terms will be use on "THIS post" as you wrote. At least if those definitions are not the more widely accepted ones


This was posted last night, Juan … so the time for editing, has long since elapsed. But the lead post - was pretty specific as to what this one was about … herewith:

This one's NOT about cameras designed for elitists - it's about the ones designed for those who want something small and pocketable, and - most of all - inexpensive. Now, then … we ALL know they're out there - don't we? … And many folks buy them, too. They may not have a zillion megapixels, or FF formats, or APS-C, or MFT, or 1" even - but they get the job done - don't they? …. So, what's your fave, and why?

Oh, yes … be sure to indicate pertinent facts about it, when you comment - like MP (if you know it) and Zoom Length, and Sensor size (if it's digital) and if not - film size it takes. And, perhaps - the price … ok?

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