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Feb 16, 2019 10:11:11   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
roaddogie wrote:
What gets me is all the scams and unsolicited calls to my fax machine. A waste of paper and ink. Anything to scam you out of a buck.


Don't they make digital faxes these days? They will take the fax and digitize it so you can see it on your computer and print it out if it's worth saving. If the problem is significant spending some money to buy a new one might save a bit more in the paper/ink cost.

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Feb 16, 2019 10:12:40   #
CaptainBobBrown
 
Like every reasonable thing people will find a way to get around it and use it for nefarious purposes. The rationale for "spoofing" is that many people have a legitimate reason for wanting to hide their phone number when placing calls (e.g. women being stalked by predators, doctors calling to discuss lab results, etc.).

Hence the spoofing web sites. Most spoofing works through sites that use Skype to place calls and unless Skype and imitator sites were to be shut down providing a very useful calling service via VOIP the cell phone companies can't distinguish scam spoofing from legitimate number hiding.

So most of us have learned to minimize the hassle by simply not answering unrecognized numbers just like we have learned to try to live with burglars in our midst or drunk drivers by using detection technology or defensive driving. It's the price of living in an industrial/service society.

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Feb 16, 2019 10:30:38   #
R Dubs Loc: Linloln,Ne.
 
we don't have Skype and still average around 5 scam calls a day on our land line. I don't speak until if I don't hear a voice I just lay the phone down, it ties up there line, after some time they get the idea and stop calling. We use to get 10-15 calls a day. The trick with cell phones here is they rout there calls through private numbers, I don't know how that is done but it need to stop.

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Feb 16, 2019 10:31:06   #
FredCM Loc: Central Illinois
 
A lot, if not most, of these types of calls come from overseas. Good luck with the arrest them idea.

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Feb 16, 2019 10:31:07   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Nomorobo (free for landlines) if your carrier supports it, has reduced mine about 90%. If your phone recieves a call from a robo that’s in their database (which is very comprehensive and you can add new numbers to it), it picks up after one ring and tells the caller that if they are not a robot to enter a sequence of numbers. I smile every time I hear a single ring - another robo call intercepted. It just intercepted one as I was typing this...

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Feb 16, 2019 10:32:56   #
agillot
 
wait until you get calls from pissed off people that ask you to quit harassing them on the phone . the jerk is using your phone number for phony id .

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Feb 16, 2019 10:46:08   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
ProfessorRagtop wrote:
Would you vote for:

If I am elected President, your phone will become yours again. Telemarketers that call "Do Not Call" numbers will be arrested and fined, phone companies that allow spoofing and robocalls will be fined and CEO's pictured on milk cartons, politicians who call during the few days before an election will have their actual vote total reduced by the number of unwanted calls made.


You have my vote!

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Feb 16, 2019 10:49:30   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
R Dubs wrote:
we don't have Skype and still average around 5 scam calls a day on our land line. I don't speak until if I don't hear a voice I just lay the phone down, it ties up there line, after some time they get the idea and stop calling. We use to get 10-15 calls a day. The trick with cell phones here is they rout there calls through private numbers, I don't know how that is done but it need to stop.


I do the same thing! Their deal is to rapidly call as many numbers as possible and they know they will be successful on some of them even if only on .003%. It's a numbers game and by setting the phone down you make them miss out on one or two "next" dials. Another thing, don't say "yes" when answering scam calls. They will ask questions that require a yes answer and with you saying yes they have your voice which they can plug into questions like are you willing to accept this fantastic offer --- see. If I get a call and they ask if this is Mike, I answer by asking who would like to know. If the call is possibly legit, I will say "you are talking to him". I avoid saying yes on the phone.

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Feb 16, 2019 11:06:35   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
pmorin wrote:
In the past few days my cell has been getting calls where the # is randomly generated, or spoofed, to try and fool the target and get them to answer. I have my phone on the ‘do not disturb’ setting and accepting only calls from numbers in my contacts. Each of the calls from this scammer are similar to the prior one and are easily identified as a scam, but just the fact that the telco companies allow this is an outrage. They have the ability to identify and root out these scammers, but it makes them a few bucks so they do little or nothing to stop it. The options the telcos give their customers to block these calls isn’t a very effective one either.
Well, that’s the extent of my rant. It just pisses me off to have these criminals getting away with this crap.
This is the transcript of the voicemail these @$$§0|£$ left.
In the past few days my cell has been getting call... (show quote)


Went thru "this crap" about 2 months ago; if you stick with it, they'll bring an "asian" IRS agent online, telling you something about your car ending up at the Mexico border, with drugs in it. Reported it to "the feds", but they never did anything about it, LoL.....

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Feb 16, 2019 11:11:09   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
The latest scam was a very official voice from the local Sheriff's office from a deputy that needed an immediate call back to resolve an "important court matter that was time-sensitive". the call was actually from the local sheriff office number (spoofed), but the call back number was untraceable (I tried).

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Feb 16, 2019 11:26:47   #
wasatch Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
 
One time I received a spoofed phone call where the spoofed number calling my cellphone was my cellphone number. It is kind of hard to call myself especially when I'm not even touching my phone.

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Feb 16, 2019 11:28:34   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
pmorin wrote:
In the past few days my cell has been getting calls where the # is randomly generated, or spoofed, to try and fool the target and get them to answer. I have my phone on the ‘do not disturb’ setting and accepting only calls from numbers in my contacts. Each of the calls from this scammer are similar to the prior one and are easily identified as a scam, but just the fact that the telco companies allow this is an outrage. They have the ability to identify and root out these scammers, but it makes them a few bucks so they do little or nothing to stop it. The options the telcos give their customers to block these calls isn’t a very effective one either.
Well, that’s the extent of my rant. It just pisses me off to have these criminals getting away with this crap.
This is the transcript of the voicemail these @$$§0|£$ left.
In the past few days my cell has been getting call... (show quote)


Just because of this crap Century Link is one customer lighter. We rarely get these calls on our cell phones and they are much easier to ignore. The steps Century Link wanted me to go through to block these calls would have tied me in knots.

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Feb 16, 2019 11:42:36   #
Mercer Loc: Houston, TX, USA
 
YES>

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Feb 16, 2019 12:11:42   #
Popeye Loc: LifIno
 
I get them on both my landline and cell phone all the time. I especially like the ones that come from (000) 000-0000. I don't answer them and they never leave a message on the answering machine.

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Feb 16, 2019 12:33:36   #
St.Mary's
 
I accept all phone calls hoping I get a live person on the other end. For example, in the last year I received three calls from two "grandsons" and one "grand daughter" informing me that they had been in a traffic accident and needed money to get out of jail and pay a lawyer. One of the "grandsons" was so good in his delivery I finally had to break in to his story and tell him how good his presentation was and commented he should try acting for a profession if he hadn't done so already. He replied that I had done a pretty good job on my end also, and he hung up. I have been threatened by the "local sheriff's office", the "IRS" has told me they are watching my house (that must be boring) and various other "stuff". My "grand daughter" asked for $5000 dollars, at which time I told her that her outfit needed to do better research, as there is no way in hell I could put my hands on 5 grand. I always have better things to do, but the little time it takes to pick up on these calls is worth the fun if you get a live one. Oh yes, I have two grandchildren ages 5, and 3.

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