Practice your cloning skills (Page 3): :sm02: :sm02: :sm02:...

melueth Loc: Central Florida

kenievans wrote:

Does this work?

Nikonnorm Loc: East Gwillimbury Ont.

My Try

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Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Nikonnorm wrote:

My Try

Looks good! Which software and tools, please?

NJFrank Loc: New Jersey

Ok I am late to the party. I need the practice. Not great but not terrible. I'll give myself a C+

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Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

NJFrank wrote:

Ok I am late to the party. I need the practice. Not great but not terrible. I'll give myself a C+

I appreciate your attempt and your patience, Frank. It is a tedious assignment, for sure.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Red Sky At Night wrote:

You all are so far ahead of me on what you seem to... (show quote)

Hey Red, I use LR for all my cloning. I didn't try Linda's exercise, but the process to address either of these exercises is to work in small pieces, first with a clone brush to 'roughly' remove the target correction, then finalize the correction with heal brush to seamlessly complete the removal. This approach of working in steps applies equally well for the dog leash you mentioned, that is, working in small sections as you observed in your comment.

Take a powerline against the sky that crosses the entire frame as a simple situation, somewhat similar to your dog leash. You might try to replace / remove the line by dragging your mouse over the powerline in one move. This won't work, as you've likely experienced. A better approach is to work on the line in parts, maybe in 2- to 3-inches pieces at a time, as measured on the size of your screen. LR will go and pick "matching" clone sources, rarely the best selection making you wonder about the "intelligence" of the software. Just "grab" the cloning source select and move to a better source, as needed. Use a brush size just larger than the size of the line being replace. Set the feather = 0 and Opacity = 100.

Once you've cloned away the line. Change your brush mode to 'heal' and increase your brush size to be maybe twice as big as the sized used for the clone. Then, brush over the earlier cloning in slightly longer lengths, but still working in small parts of the image rather than trying to heal the entire section at once. Again, adjust the selected source as needed. Sometimes, it's difficult to brush over the earlier cloning without accidentally selecting and moving the earlier clone pieces. Use Cntrl-Z to "undo" that action that moved the cloned section. To brush over the earlier cloning, you might need to eyeball the size and shape of the clone section and use your mouse to brush a heal section at a different location on the image. Then, select and drag that heal section over the clone section and adjust the source of the heal. Heal over the entire power line piece by piece and then view the results.

When reviewing the results after the cloning actions and heal actions, adjust the size of your heal brush and fix any remaining sections. This third pass is when it is next to impossible to brush over the existing work without mistakenly selecting the earlier work. I brush outside the intended selection and the drag and move the heal portion over the intended target.

In LR versions 5 and earlier, I used a brush with a feather around 22. Adobe made some subtle changes in v6 and beyond where feather = 0 works better for the 'clone then heal' process described above.

Regarding your subscription software, find your license key, user name and password and access the Adobe site and sign in. Open a technical support chat and have a support expert at Adobe walk you through the process. Alternatively, open a new UHH thread explaining your problem and looking for help / suggestions.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Red Sky At Night wrote:

You all are so far ahead of me on what you seem to... (show quote)

Be glad to help. Private message or a topic. Phone if necessary!! Basically, when you commit to the Adobe CC Photographer's plan for $10 a month, you download and install the program called "Adobe Creative Cloud". It manages your account and programs. From within that application you pick which app, like Photoshop, then it will be installed.

Dog leashes will be a "snap". Inside Photoshop, you (1) select them and (2) fill in or replace them with computer generated pixels.

https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/kb/creative-cloud-desktop-app-download.html

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rborud Loc: Minnesota

Linda an excellent challenge in tech. The first was comparatively easy. So rather than spend time on it I went to the very difficult task of #2. I used the cloning tools of PSP, which I use. I stopped at this point as other appointments intruded. This is the equivalent to a tongue twister. Thanks RBorud

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

rborud wrote:

Linda an excellent challenge in tech. The first was comparatively easy. So rather than spend time on it I went to the very difficult task of #2. I used the cloning tools of PSP, which I use. I stopped at this point as other appointments intruded. This is the equivalent to a tongue twister. Thanks RBorud

A good analogy! Many thanks, Russ.

davefales Loc: Virginia

Use CC 2019 cloning makes me wonder how much longer I can survive with CS6.

kenievans Loc: Dallas

Here is my attempt at the second one. In Photoshop I switched back and forth between the cloning brush and the healing brush. I attempted to use Fill Content Aware but that was not up to the task of all the little lines and poles. It's not great but it's not bad.

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Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

kenievans wrote:

Here is my attempt at the second one. In Photoshop I switched back and forth between the cloning brush and the healing brush. I attempted to use Fill Content Aware but that was not up to the task of all the little lines and poles. It's not great but it's not bad.

Good practice, though

Many thanks Keni.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

davefales wrote:

Use CC 2019 cloning makes me wonder how much longer I can survive with CS6.

Pysanka Artist Loc: Rochester, NY

I have Photoshop Elements 2 (ha ha ha). I used the clone stamp to stamp out the fence. I didn't attempt the pole cause it would take me forever. Perhaps I'll give it a go when I'm on vacation next week.

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Red Sky At Night

CHG_CANON wrote:

Hey Red, I use LR for all my cloning. I didn't try Linda's exercise, but the process to address either of these exercises is to work in small pieces, first with a clone brush to 'roughly' remove the target correction, then finalize the correction with heal brush to seamlessly complete the removal. This approach of working in steps applies equally well for the dog leash you mentioned, that is, working in small sections as you observed in your comment.

Take a powerline against the sky that crosses the entire frame as a simple situation, somewhat similar to your dog leash. You might try to replace / remove the line by dragging your mouse over the powerline in one move. This won't work, as you've likely experienced. A better approach is to work on the line in parts, maybe in 2- to 3-inches pieces at a time, as measured on the size of your screen. LR will go and pick "matching" clone sources, rarely the best selection making you wonder about the "intelligence" of the software. Just "grab" the cloning source select and move to a better source, as needed. Use a brush size just larger than the size of the line being replace. Set the feather = 0 and Opacity = 100.

Once you've cloned away the line. Change your brush mode to 'heal' and increase your brush size to be maybe twice as big as the sized used for the clone. Then, brush over the earlier cloning in slightly longer lengths, but still working in small parts of the image rather than trying to heal the entire section at once. Again, adjust the selected source as needed. Sometimes, it's difficult to brush over the earlier cloning without accidentally selecting and moving the earlier clone pieces. Use Cntrl-Z to "undo" that action that moved the cloned section. To brush over the earlier cloning, you might need to eyeball the size and shape of the clone section and use your mouse to brush a heal section at a different location on the image. Then, select and drag that heal section over the clone section and adjust the source of the heal. Heal over the entire power line piece by piece and then view the results.

When reviewing the results after the cloning actions and heal actions, adjust the size of your heal brush and fix any remaining sections. This third pass is when it is next to impossible to brush over the existing work without mistakenly selecting the earlier work. I brush outside the intended selection and the drag and move the heal portion over the intended target.

In LR versions 5 and earlier, I used a brush with a feather around 22. Adobe made some subtle changes in v6 and beyond where feather = 0 works better for the 'clone then heal' process described above.

Regarding your subscription software, find your license key, user name and password and access the Adobe site and sign in. Open a technical support chat and have a support expert at Adobe walk you through the process. Alternatively, open a new UHH thread explaining your problem and looking for help / suggestions.

Hey Red, I use LR for all my cloning. I didn't try... (show quote)

Thank you so much for your detailed reply. It did help a lot and I’m sure as I continue to do this it will get even better. Very kind of you. And I will “chat” with Adobe as you suggested.