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Idaho Lawmakers Push Bill That Would Treat A******n as Murder
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Jan 30, 2019 21:33:01   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
pendennis wrote:
It will make a******n illegal without regard to economic status.

Your argument is without logic or morality. It's about the sanctity of life.

Society is judged as to how its most weak and vulnerable are treated. It's easy to k**l unborn babies, because they don't have protection from murdering doctors.

To take your argument to its logical end; let's form the death panels and decide which among us are no longer useful and should be k**led.

You don't like being called immoral? Then don't advocate immorality.
It will make a******n illegal without regard to ec... (show quote)


How can you mistake a lump of cells as a human being. Disposing of sperm is OK, and disposing of eggs is ok, but if they should touch you magically have a human being? 50% of fertilized eggs parish before a woman even misses her period. If your problem with a******n is religious, say so, I will respect that, and quit trying to control others based on it. If not, I don't see how you can possibly be against a******n from the moment an egg is fertilized. If you want to argue about when it becomes a person, let's hear your argument.

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Jan 30, 2019 23:41:52   #
pendennis
 
thom w wrote:
How can you mistake a lump of cells as a human being. Disposing of sperm is OK, and disposing of eggs is ok, but if they should touch you magically have a human being? 50% of fertilized eggs parish before a woman even misses her period. If your problem with a******n is religious, say so, I will respect that, and quit trying to control others based on it. If not, I don't see how you can possibly be against a******n from the moment an egg is fertilized. If you want to argue about when it becomes a person, let's hear your argument.
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There is no mistake. I never stated that life began at conception. There are countless fertilized eggs which never attach and then develop into a human being. Then there are also countless spontaneous a******ns and miscarriages happening all the time absent any human intervention. However, your argument falls into the specious "unviable tissue mass" used by the pro-a******n mob ("lump of cells...).

However, once a heartbeat is detected, then a human being exists, and that human being must be protected by the mother, during gestation, and then through birth and to adulthood by the parents.

I'm an atheist, and I object to a******n on moral, not religious grounds. There are also thousands of folks out there who view life as a cycle. One does not k**l at either end just to satisfy a false social narrative.

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Jan 30, 2019 23:44:43   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
thom w wrote:
How can you mistake a lump of cells as a human being. Disposing of sperm is OK, and disposing of eggs is ok, but if they should touch you magically have a human being? 50% of fertilized eggs parish before a woman even misses her period. If your problem with a******n is religious, say so, I will respect that, and quit trying to control others based on it. If not, I don't see how you can possibly be against a******n from the moment an egg is fertilized. If you want to argue about when it becomes a person, let's hear your argument.
How can you mistake a lump of cells as a human bei... (show quote)


My opinion. The mother's right to control her own body, ends,to a degree. at viability of the fetus. Roe v Wade states the end of 2nd trimester (6 months) marks viability. But as a result of improvements in medical technology have lead to viability at about 4-5 months. At that point only, and I mean really only, if the life of the mother is at immediate risk should an a******n be allowed. And late nterm a******ns should never be allowed as it is murder.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:37:49   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Vietnam Vet wrote:
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/idaho-lawmakers-push-bill-treat-a******n-really-murder/?utm_source=push&utm_medium=conservativetribune&utm_content=2019-01-30&utm_campaign=manualpost



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Jan 31, 2019 07:37:58   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Kraken wrote:
That's great, does that mean the judges are going to pay for the kids up bring since most single mothers can barely afford to feed themselves?


Well then, let's allow single moms to k**l their one year olds when the going gets tough. How about when dad loses his job and can't find work for a year? Let's k**l the kids since there is no money coming in. Would be ok to you?

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Jan 31, 2019 07:39:17   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Kraken wrote:
That's great, does that mean the judges are going to pay for the kids up bring since most single mothers can barely afford to feed themselves?


Krackhead, no the judges are not going to pay to raise the kids, we are shipping them to canada so you socialists can take care of them. You are canadian remember? But out.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:41:38   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
This law will make a******n illegal for poor people. Rich people and congressmen's girlfriend will always be able to get them.
Why is it that old men are the ones that want to control women's bodies?
Dont like a******n? Dont friggin get one.


You are absurd. If a woman does not want to get pregnant, she knows how to see that she doesn't get pregnant. If you are a loser sleeping with everyone, doing drugs and alcohol, living life irresponsibly, then you will likely stupidly get pregnant.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:42:30   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Maybe pregnant women in idaho will be rushing to the a******n clinics to clear the pipes before the law goes into effect.


How immature of you? You never disappoint. You always have a childish, immature comment.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:42:46   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
soba1 wrote:
Also with that sick law NY passed I am glad someone is going to the extreme in the opposite direction.
Its time someone takes a stand.



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Jan 31, 2019 07:43:44   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
boberic wrote:
The problem here is where do you draw the line. At fertilization? or before. Or at what time in the pregnancy. Roe v wade suggested viability as the marker. How do you descriminate between the mothers right to life and/or the embryo. An arbitrary edict is exactly that. One might argue that it a state issue and none of the feds business. There must be limits, what are they? nThere are no right/wrong positions. Only opinions. The supreme court's decision, is after all an opinion. there is no hard and fact scientific answer to these queestions. Some say morality--That too varies as well. The definition of murder varies as well, when is k*****g justified? Too many questions with no "correct"answers. I have my opinion you have yours- who is correct, who is wrong?
The problem here is where do you draw the line. At... (show quote)


Bottom line is we follow the law of the Supreme Court.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:45:29   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
Making a******n illegal doesnt stop.a******ns. It stops safe a******ns.
Why must you people try to make others live by your rules?
Tell you what, work on priests not sexually abusing children. When you fix that, well talk.


Mental impairment this morning little Frankie? Perhaps you can explain what the issue of p*******es has to do with women getting pregnant. We are all waiting for this warped explanation.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:46:07   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Libertarian party platform:

"1.5 A******n

Recognizing that a******n is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration."

Meaning no government funding, no government restrictions.


OH, SANCTIONED MURDER.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:47:05   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
I agree
Government does not fund a******ns now so all we need to do is get the GOP to obey the "nunya" rule which is, If it's not your womb, its nunya business, so just shut up.



You dont' have a womb, so it is "NUNYA" business so just shut up.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:48:28   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
pendennis wrote:
It will make a******n illegal without regard to economic status.

Your argument is without logic or morality. It's about the sanctity of life.

Society is judged as to how its most weak and vulnerable are treated. It's easy to k**l unborn babies, because they don't have protection from murdering doctors.

To take your argument to its logical end; let's form the death panels and decide which among us are no longer useful and should be k**led.

You don't like being called immoral? Then don't advocate immorality.
It will make a******n illegal without regard to ec... (show quote)



Lib f*****t socialist dems do not understand the term "sanctity of life". They value nothing but money, greed and power.

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Jan 31, 2019 07:49:30   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
So you're suggesting TV hat if she or he didn't use effective birth control we should punish the w ok man by forcing her to give birth.
That is so christian of you.


Punish him??? He was 50 percent of the problem. Be responsible or pay the price.

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