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Jan 30, 2019 17:55:59   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Libertarian party platform:

"1.5 A******n

Recognizing that a******n is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration."

Meaning no government funding, no government restrictions.


I agree
Government does not fund a******ns now so all we need to do is get the GOP to obey the "nunya" rule which is, If it's not your womb, its nunya business, so just shut up.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:05:48   #
pendennis
 
boberic wrote:
The problem here is where do you draw the line. At fertilization? or before. Or at what time in the pregnancy. Roe v wade suggested viability as the marker. How do you descriminate between the mothers right to life and/or the embryo. An arbitrary edict is exactly that. One might argue that it a state issue and none of the feds business. There must be limits, what are they? nThere are no right/wrong positions. Only opinions. The supreme court's decision, is after all an opinion. there is no hard and fact scientific answer to these queestions. Some say morality--That too varies as well. The definition of murder varies as well, when is k*****g justified? Too many questions with no "correct"answers. I have my opinion you have yours- who is correct, who is wrong?
The problem here is where do you draw the line. At... (show quote)

There's no line to be drawn.

Unless there's a medical necessity, in the case of a direct threat to the mother's life, there's no reason for an a******n.

A******n, and now in the case of live births, is just another attempt to destroy the sanctity of life. This is where the idea of a "woman's choice" has led. Choice was made when a woman and a man decided to indulge in the act of procreation.

The U.S. Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade, created a non-existent "right to privacy" from nowhere. There was never in the history of civilization, a right to voluntarily terminate a pregnancy. The left used terms such as "unviable tissue mass" to dehumanize the process. There was no scientific evidence to support the Court's decision.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:11:37   #
pendennis
 
Frank T wrote:
This law will make a******n illegal for poor people. Rich people and congressmen's girlfriend will always be able to get them.
Why is it that old men are the ones that want to control women's bodies?
Dont like a******n? Dont friggin get one.


It will make a******n illegal without regard to economic status.

Your argument is without logic or morality. It's about the sanctity of life.

Society is judged as to how its most weak and vulnerable are treated. It's easy to k**l unborn babies, because they don't have protection from murdering doctors.

To take your argument to its logical end; let's form the death panels and decide which among us are no longer useful and should be k**led.

You don't like being called immoral? Then don't advocate immorality.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:15:59   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
pendennis wrote:
There's no line to be drawn.

Unless there's a medical necessity, in the case of a direct threat to the mother's life, there's no reason for an a******n.

A******n, and now in the case of live births, is just another attempt to destroy the sanctity of life. This is where the idea of a "woman's choice" has led. Choice was made when a woman and a man decided to indulge in the act of procreation.

The U.S. Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade, created a non-existent "right to privacy" from nowhere. There was never in the history of civilization, a right to voluntarily terminate a pregnancy. The left used terms such as "unviable tissue mass" to dehumanize the process. There was no scientific evidence to support the Court's decision.
There's no line to be drawn. br br Unless there's... (show quote)


There are any number of lines. What exectly is a medical necessity, an opinion. ! docs opinion may be different than another. Where is it written that there is a sanctity of life? If some one is ablut to k**l your wife is permisible to k**l him first? If a scientific evidence is required to judge a law we would have very few laws.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:20:13   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Frank T wrote:
This law will make a******n illegal for poor people. Rich people and congressmen's girlfriend will always be able to get them.
Why is it that old men are the ones that want to control women's bodies?
Dont like a******n? Dont friggin get one.


Why is it thT some women cannot control their own body.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:30:08   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
letmedance wrote:
Why is it thT some women cannot control their own body.


If a woman is dealing with a man that can't afford or figure out how to get a condom. Maybe she shouldn't be dealing with him in the first place.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:40:16   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
soba1 wrote:
If a woman is dealing with a man that can't afford or figure out how to get a condom. Maybe she shouldn't be dealing with him in the first place.


Birth control is available and there is no excuse for not using it.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:46:23   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
letmedance wrote:
Birth control is available and there is no excuse for not using it.



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Jan 30, 2019 19:15:09   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
letmedance wrote:
Birth control is available and there is no excuse for not using it.


So you're suggesting TV hat if she or he didn't use effective birth control we should punish the w ok man by forcing her to give birth.
That is so christian of you.

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Jan 30, 2019 19:17:39   #
jcboy3
 
letmedance wrote:
Why is it thT some women cannot control their own body.


Because Republicans want to make it illegal.

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Jan 30, 2019 19:40:41   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
letmedance wrote:
Birth control is available and there is no excuse for not using it.


Then why are a lot of right to lifers trying to stop birth control? Anywhere you see a right to life booth, county fairs etc., you will find anti birth control literature. They don't care about fetuses, they just want to punish sex they don't approve of. (like all generalities there will be exceptions to this)

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Jan 30, 2019 19:45:17   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Frank T wrote:
So you're suggesting TV hat if she or he didn't use effective birth control we should punish the w ok man by forcing her to give birth.
That is so christian of you.


This is common sense. You are suggesting that if she chose not to use birth control she should be allowed to end life, that is so Christian of you.

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Jan 30, 2019 19:46:28   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
Then why are a lot of right to lifers trying to stop birth control? Anywhere you see a right to life booth, county fairs etc., you will find anti birth control literature. They don't care about fetuses, they just want to punish sex they don't approve of. (like all generalities there will be exceptions to this)


Your train is on the wrong track.

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Jan 30, 2019 19:47:39   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
letmedance wrote:
Your train is on the wrong track.


I have no idea what you just said.

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Jan 30, 2019 19:48:53   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
I have no idea what you just said.


Think about it.

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