Camera and Lens info should be posted with photos (Page 2): The settings are really irrelevant since the lighting conditions can't be duplicated to any reliable degree. Post processing...

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

soloboogie wrote:

I think it would be helpful to include equipment info with photos that are posted. No need for exposure info such as shooting mode, ISO, aperture, shutter speed, etc. Just camera and lens. REGIS is always faithful with his bird photos.

The settings are really irrelevant since the lighting conditions can't be duplicated to any reliable degree.
Post processing can often correct inappropriate settings and EXIF data will mislead. Just appreciate the images for what they appear to be.

BebuLamar

soloboogie wrote:

I think it would be helpful to include equipment info with photos that are posted. No need for exposure info such as shooting mode, ISO, aperture, shutter speed, etc. Just camera and lens. REGIS is always faithful with his bird photos.

Why?????????????????

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

There's no need to argue about the usefulness of the data. If you feel it's helpful, a far better approach would be for you to investigate and to teach yourself how to obtain this information from the EXIF data. This data is typically available, not because it was spoon fed to you in writing, but because in the modern world of 2019, the data is embedded in the image file for you to read at your own interest and leisure.

Bipod

burkphoto wrote:

Just store the original file with the post. The curious can read the EXIF table. No need to repeat it...

EXIF is great in principle, but limited in practice, as the implementation varies
from camera to camera.

(At least some) Canon cameras record the distance to the subject in the EXIF,
which is kinda nice.

Nikon cameras encrypt detailed lens data in the EXIF, but most cameras don't.
It's nice to know the lens and focal setting if its a zoom lens.

Nikon also hides the camera's total number of shutter accutations inside every JPEG
filme made with (at least some) Nikon cameras. That's sort of like putting the
odometer on the outside of the car, but worse.

Once again there is no real standard (and on organization to certify compliance if
there was). A company could decide to put your camea's serial number in the EXIF.

EXIF also inherited a bad design from TIFF. The many technical problems are documented
here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchangeable_image_file_format#Problems

EXIF is another technology that could have been wonderful but is only so-so because
of every manfacture decided to "go it alone".

dione961

[quote=CHG_CANON]There's no need to argue about the usefulness of the data.

Hi, your reply here is spot on for me. I wondered whether you could let me know how to see more exif data than I can. I can see ISO, aperture, shutter speed & focal length & date & camera detail in a photo's File Information; but when I've posted a pic here for download I've had comments back that make it clear that members here can see other settings (eg, whether I used AP, SP or Auto, & other detail) that I don't see. Is that a function of the software being used?

Also, at risk of sounding dumb, & I know it's not your post, I'm just short-cutting with 1 post, do you know what a troll is in the context of this forum & what does 'don't feed the troll mean' (UHH is the 1st forum I've ever used). Thanks also for always being so generous with your time - it means a lot to newbies like me!!

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

[quote=dione961]

CHG_CANON wrote:

There's no need to argue about the usefulness of t... (show quote)

The easiest, but maybe the most truncated analysis, is done by opening an image file attachment in a new browser tab and reading with browser extension = EXIF Viewer. You'll have to investigate whether you can use Google Chrome as your browser and / or whether EXIF Viewer runs in other browsers or whether similar tools run in your preferred browser. For more detailed analysis, download the attachment and load into another EXIF browser or into your image editor such as LR, PS, DPP, etc. To read all available values, investigate EXIFTOOL and how to dump the data into a sorted text file. To your question, yes, the level of detail you can obtain is a matter of the tool used as well as efforts the photographer may have taken to suppress the EXIF values that remain in the image file posted.

An internet troll can be defined many ways. A few easy to obtain definitions come in the results of google search = internet troll

Shutterbug57

soloboogie wrote:

You rely on the metering of the camera and make any necessary adjustment.

Assuming your camera has a meter, and that it is accurate.

Shutterbug57

CHG_CANON wrote:

There's no need to argue about the usefulness of the data. If you feel it's helpful, a far better approach would be for you to investigate and to teach yourself how to obtain this information from the EXIF data. This data is typically available, not because it was spoon fed to you in writing, but because in the modern world of 2019, the data is embedded in the image file for you to read at your own interest and leisure.

There are a ton of cameras out there that don’t record EXIF data. Just saying.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Shutterbug57 wrote:

There are a ton of cameras out there that don’t record EXIF data. Just saying.

If you find it's important, no one and nothing is stopping you from typing out this data for your images, should you find a camera that doesn't embed EXIF data ...

sloscheider Loc: Minnesota

Shutterbug57 wrote:

There are a ton of cameras out there that don’t record EXIF data. Just saying.

Any specifics? Just curious... I can’t think of any camera I’ve used in a good few years that didn’t include some bit of exif data, including every smart phone I’ve owned

dione961

[quote=CHG_CANON]The easiest, but maybe the most truncated analysis, is done by opening an image file attachment in a new browser tab and reading with browser extension = EXIF Viewer...

Thanks!! Loaded EXIF Viewer to Chrome & tried a pic - lots of info. Not sure how to save the list yet but will look into that. Looks like a great way to learn: relate results to data & compare!! Looked up the troll thing: kind of get the comment now. Pretty vital to stay out of arguments when you don't know too much (like me)!! Thanks again.

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

soloboogie wrote:

I may be wrong but I think my EXIF gives focal length but not lens model.

My Exif (Olympus M4/3 and Canon DSLRS) data gives lens models.

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

soloboogie wrote:

Then I guess pros are wrong to be using that expensive glass.

Not just pros.
Some of us want reliability, sharpness (especially at the wider apertures), possibly fast apertures, possibly weather sealing, focusing speed (and accuracy), and image stabilisation.
All that comes at a price.

Elmerviking

soloboogie wrote:

Then I guess pros are wrong to be using that expensive glass.

Maybe reading this will change your opinion:😊
http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/1687/the-key-to-great-photography-is-a-good-lens-right/

Shutterbug57

sloscheider wrote:

Any specifics? Just curious... I can’t think of any camera I’ve used in a good few years that didn’t include some bit of exif data, including every smart phone I’ve owned

Any film body won’t have EXIF data embedded. Half of my bodies (4/8) are film. I scan the negs or prints to post pics. No, I am not going to enter the data into the scanned pics, but I may just include the basics for a posted image from my notes.